Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
i was thinking about how many prospects look like they'll be a force to be reckoned with, but then either end up losing to not so great opposition or never end up being as good as you had hoped or thought they'd be, my personal pick is Fernando Vargas, many people are quick to say he was overrated, when honestly i say it was wrecked due to bad managing, the guy had it all, power, good boxing ability, heart, took risks (sometimes too many), was willing to fight everyone, and also could sell a fight easily. was wonderin if you guys could share your picks
But even if Fernando Vargas had been allowed to develop a bit more, could he have honestly ever have beaten ODLH, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley ?

I mean i understand what your saying and i agree somewhat, and he did impress me in his early fights especially against Winky Wright, but the point im making i don't think he could have ever have beaten the fighters i mentioned above.
honestly, yes i do think he would have been able to beat them all, i mean he just needed to rack up more experience, and one thing i noticed re-watching Vargas' career is that after each loss a little bit more of him was gone, and i don't think it was as much physical as it was mental, i mean i know he has back probs, but i look at it this way, relatively un-experienced big fights and they throw him in against Trinidad, he gets dropped twice in the first round, yet gives him hell from there on out until getting stopped in the final round, if he was a bit more experienced he wouldn't of fallen into that trap and well get caught so easily, i think he would have been able to outbox Trinidad for the decision, and the DLH fight would have been the closest of the 3, cause honestly one eyed and i had him ahead in the Mosley fight, rematch well he gave a half assed effort IMO