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Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
This debate has been ongoing for a couple of years.

When it was announced to the world a few years ago it made national news and Richard Dawkins went on Richard and Judy to proclaim how it finally proved evolution beyond doubt and that it put the final nail in the coffin for the God believers.

Unfortunately for him at least half of those evolutionary scientists who have actually worked on the 'Florensis' skeltal matter are entirely unconvinced that it is anything other than a diseased population of modern pgymy humans.

If the media ever actually reported on evolutionary mistakes then it would turn out to be highly embarrassing for them but sadly the news are only interested in the sensational claims of shocking evolutionary discoveries, which make the headlines all over the world. When they are invariably dumped a few years later it makes no news at all so in the minds of the public they are still genuine fossils, just like the average person thinks Neanderthals are a missing link, or that Brontosaurus is a real dinosaur.

Anwyay, it's not a new species of human, it's an entirely modern population of inbred pgymies suffering from microcephaly and other congenital defects.

It's quite telling that the Indonesian anthropologists who dealt with the discovery and conducted the first analysis have already rejected any notion of it being a missing link or new human species. It's only the Western scientists involved, eager to be the discoverers or identifiers of a new species of human and hence the mythical 'missing link' that continue to make a song and dance about the wrist bones in order to convince themselves they really have made one the greatest discoveries of all time.

It's a rather sad exercise in self delusion really.
Even if evolution did occur, that's not to say that God doesn't exist. Personally, I am open to believing that we did evolve from a more primative line. But I also think that if that WAS the case, then it was the hand of God that did it.

Thus, I could be described as an evolutionary theist. The truth is, I don't know, and don't have an opinion one way or the other. But they are not mutually exclusive points of view. Only short sighted assholes see it one way or another.

Science is hellbent on theories and laws. Well if that's the case, then they'd realize that the laws of entropy precludes the evolution of life from merely atoms that came together to form more complex structures, and eventually giving rise to life. It's a load of garbage, unless of course something bigger than our comprehension wanted it that way. Otherwise, NOTHING EVER BECOMES MORE ORDERED. IT BECOME INCREASINGLY RANDOM.
Not necessarily, IMHO. If we can assume that there are many more ways to reach a state of disorder than there are ways to reach a state of order, then the entropy that you refers to more or less says it is is much more likely you will reach a state of disorder. This might explain why the earth as a more or less self contained system was around for a very very very long time before anything lifelike as we know it took shape. But once you start down that road towards more advanced life forms, the ground rules start to change. Things are no longer quite so random, other forces besides just entropy are in play.