Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Kirkland, the Democrat Majority US Congress deemed it was ok for the US to take Grenada.

You bitches blame America for everything....look at your own God damn countries and their longer, more violent, and more unjust histories. Oh England you (and your posters on this very board) are too modest about your own dark history. You love to point the finger at us, but you guys are the start to most of the world's problems and not America.


Trainer, you are the EPITOME of the "blame America first" liberal.....I have a news flash for you, it's not always our fault, and even when it is our fault we do try and make it up.....we COULD have left Iraq in anarchy but no, not us, we have tried to help them rebuild AND our "enemies" in Iran should be happy as we put their boys (the Shi'ia) in charge instead of the Sunni's who had been in charge.
It wasnt about "leaving Iraq in anarchy"
We left it that way for quite some time,and then got surprised that they werent happy with their anarchy. The whole reason we went in was to prove we could do it,and then we found out we had bitten off more then we can chew.
The whole reason we did it,was to prove that we could do it,it wasnt until we were there that we figured out that that dog bites.
We've had plenty of succesful and well thought out military campaigns,this wasnt even close to being one of them. We'd be out of Afghanistan allready if we hadnt been keeping troops in reserve to invade Iraq.
PNAC and other Neo-cons had been begging for us to invade for years before we actually did.
Nobody except the actual people who lived there begged us to invade Kosovo,and it was widely derided by the far right,even though it was a success on allmost every level.
If you ask for something,and then you get it,and its a complete and utter cluster fuck,dont come crying around saying,"Well you blame America first"because the great and glorious victory didnt happen. I thought it was a stupid idea before we did it,and I still think its a stupid idea. And the facts on the ground,bear that out.