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Why Hopkins above Jones?
Longevity...In his 40s he is still a P4P #1 fighter...Also Hopkins has a better level of comp....Hard to even say when Hopkins prime is/was because he is still elite...

Jones...Titles from 160,168,175, and HW best wins are over

Tate, Toney, Hill, Hopkins (A very new to the game Hopkins not the version he turned out to be).... (his bout with McCallum was a waay past his best McCallum)

Jones also ducked guys...Admittingly he ducked Calzaghe in his LHW reign stating he had too much to lose for him to travel and fight him

Hopkins best wins...

Glen Johnson (Ist to do so) Felix Trinidad, De La Hoya, Eastman (when Howard was worthy), Wright, Pavlik, Daniels,

Hopkins beat tha man to KO Jones 1st time out...He has never been Stopped and he has never been dominated in one sided fashion he has never lost a fight by more then 3rds on any scorecard....

11yr Middleweight champion, 4yrs as undisputed MW champion, former LHW ring champion

IMO Jones in his prime may have been the most gifted athlete in the game when he fought at 168 to this day I don't think P4P he could have been beaten by anyone in history but that time was short, Jones spent a lot of soft time at LHW...his last outing was embaressing.....KO'd back to back

I had to give Hopkins the nod easily for me...just my opp though
To be honest had Roy retired after the Ruiz fight there really couldn't be much argument that he would be in most top 10 p4p lists.
Totally agree! I've always said the same thing about Tyson, if he retired after the Spinks fight. He would be in EVERBODIES top 10 Heavyweights of all time and in most peoples top 3. If you are talking about prime, you have to discount what comes after. People manage to do it with Ali