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That's cuz he's not. He held the WBO titles on 2 occasions. Since when does beating Jimmi Bredahl make you a champion?
WBO title counts buddy, if not well you can cut out a bunch of great champions titles, such as two of Barrera's reigns, now 2 of Miguel Cotto's world titles, etc
I do. I don't consider beating Michael Jennings for a vacant title enough to be called champion.
well Cotto's first championship was also the WBO title at 140, and if you didn't consider him a champion there well you're pretty far off, also using your logic of the WBO title having no credibility Paul Williams should still not be considered a champion, much less a 3 time world champion in 2 divisions

also just throwing this out there i rank Montiel higher than Darchinyan like many do, and the only title Montiel had in that weight class was the WBO, if any world titles should be considered jokes it should be the WBA and IBF