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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post

    If the bout is made, they will step into the ring above the 147 welter limit and not at the catch weight limit. So I'd say you're making a bit too much out of the catch weight as far as insisting Pacquiao fight 147 pounders because isn't what you are effectively saying is that he step into the ring against a bigger fighter to get credit for the win. Welter is 140-147. I read Mosley stepped into the ring against Margarito at 160. (verify) Mosley would surely step into the ring above 154 and Pacquiao below 150. I'd say Roach contractually protecting his fighter is absolutely the right thing to do professionally and the right thing to do morally.

    The fair thing for weight classes would be for fighters to step into the ring under the limit, but because of the way fighters try to gain an advantage, the rules are such as they are for safety. The topic is not so pertinent amongst fighters that meet mid range of the weight class but when fighters meet coming from the extremes of the weight class it gets really hot.
    Fighters always step into the ring heavier on fight night than the do on the day of the weigh in, this isn't news and it's besides the point.

    Do you have any idea how much it takes out of having to force yourself down to a weight for a weigh in? It takes a lot out of you... the further you go from your natural weight the harder it's going to be to rehydrate and refuel afterwards and the weaker you are going to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    It's obvious you never Boxed before. You have no idea the condition Oscar was in. He couldn't defend himself. He was dead. Nobody knew how bad it was except Roach. Roach said it himself the fight would of never happened if Oscar was still a threat. So in reality Pac beat a man who was incapable of fighting back. Wow. How much longer you going to suck his dikk for it?



    Haye: I want to fight for your title Wlad. But i don't feel comfortable with you being so heavy. You think you can do me a favor and come in at like 215 or 220?

    How stupid is that? Do yourself a favor and admit it was an idiotic example and save what little dignity you have left
    That's exactly my point you moron. Thank you. It's exactly what the Pac camp is trying to do because they have the $$$ to get away with it and it stinks.

    Apparently we can also add reading comprehension to the list of things too perplexing for VD, along with numeracy.
    The option doesn't exist at Heavyweight..


    As I have explained twice already there are 43 'options' to chose from for a Hypothetical catchweight that fall within the difference between Haye's 200 and Wlad's 245.
    Pick one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Fighters always step into the ring heavier on fight night than the do on the day of the weigh in, this isn't news and it's besides the point.

    Do you have any idea how much it takes out of having to force yourself down to a weight for a weigh in? It takes a lot out of you... the further you go from your natural weight the harder it's going to be to rehydrate and refuel afterwards and the weaker you are going to be.
    Let me get your opinion into focus, You're stating that Mosley having to shed 2-3 pounds more for Pacquiao than when he fought Margarito is going to weight drain Mosley? ah.. ok then, I get it. I think it a stretch but I get it....
    Please don't try and put anything into focus for me unless you've studied as much Anatomy and Physiology as I have... you may be punching a bit above your weight.

    It's not at all stretch, he walks around at 160+ pounds... the lower you get the more each pound counts. After a certain point every ounce you lose is fluid/glycogen stored in the blood and muscles that the body needs to have a certain level of to function correctly.

    It can take a person who hasn't been drinking enough water in their diet SIX WEEKS to become properly hydrated... these guys have 24 hours to rehydrate and they haven't just became partially dehydrated from poor water intake... they have forced it all out.

    ODLH struggled so much he had to rehydrate by injecting himself with an IV line and having fluids fed into his veins. Sound fun?

    I don't think you understand how hard it can be to loose the last couple of pounds if it's too low for you, it's completely unatural.

    You can't just keep on saying 'It's only a few more pounds' there has to be a cut off point and Roach is making out it's only a few pounds when really he's hoping that a few more pounds.

    The majority of fighters are already fighting as low as they can healthy get to in an effort to be naturally stronger than everybody else at the weight so it REALLY doesn't take much for it to be a few pounds too far.

    Why do you think that from Strawweight to Featherweight only 4... sometimes even only 3 pounds divide each weight class?

    Or let me put it like this: If they are going to be heavier on fight night anyway what motive does Roach have for asking him to weigh in at 144? If it wasn't going to affect Mosely then they wouldn't bother to ask.

    With the right people Mosely may be able to rehydrate properly... the lower he goes the harder it is and ODLH was also meant to have the right people around him... look how that turned out.
    Last edited by AdamGB; 06-01-2009 at 07:05 PM.

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