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Pacquiao is going to bludgeon Cotto. To tell the truth, out of the big three (PBF, Mosley, Cotto) this is the fight I least wanted to see.
I disagree. This is the fight I most wanted to see because out of the 3, this will actually be the most exciting fight to watch. I knew though, that after Cotto putting in a close performance Manny would pick this fight. If Cotto had stopped Clottey impressively, no way Manny would have taken that fight.
Really? I think Cotto has two types of fighting. When he stalks and when he baits and throws 3-4 punches while backing into the ropes. I think the most exciting fight out of all the people and Pac would be Mosley vs Pac. Both men possess speed and power and look to brawl.

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Pacquiao is going to bludgeon Cotto. To tell the truth, out of the big three (PBF, Mosley, Cotto) this is the fight I least wanted to see.
I disagree. This is the fight I most wanted to see because out of the 3, this will actually be the most exciting fight to watch. I knew though, that after Cotto putting in a close performance Manny would pick this fight. If Cotto had stopped Clottey impressively, no way Manny would have taken that fight.
Agreed. People are underestimating Cotto on the back of a tough fight marred by a butt induced gash. People are saying he is done when in fact he should be commended for adapting and finding a way through. He could have quit earlier and taken a points decision. But instead roughed it out.
We agreed on this on another post. I will just re-agree. People made too big a deal out of Cotto fighting cautiously. He had a BAD cut and fought properly to not take too many shots. If he had fought aggressively and gotten sparked, where would that have left him?

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"If you wanna be the champion, if you wanna take my title, I think you better have to come and take it."
Marvin Hagler to all the guys who challenged him.


I have always loved this quote. If Pacman wants Cotto's title and belts fight him at his best which is 147. A catchweight is a farce, especially if it's for any titles.
I think Team PAC will not force for a title/belt to be at stake... What Team PAC will surely negotiate is the catchweight...

I'm also guessing PAC will be the favorite in the betting against Cotto...
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No catch weights. Many fans really don't like that catch weight thing. If Pacman can't fight someone at their best, then just don't fight. I sure wonder if Roberto Duran ever had a catch weight clause in his contract against Hearns, Leonard, Hagler? And considering he was about the same height and build as Pacman.
"If someone can't fight Pacquiao at his best, then just don't fight." Try looking at it through the other side of the argument. Pac is P4P #1, why should he give his opponent the complete advantage?!

I don't get how people can complain about him. Not because I'm a fan but look at what he's done. He was at 130 last year and between that last fight he fought Marquez, De La Hoya, and Hatton?! What more could people ask for? Marquez and Pac were the two best at that weight, when the fight was signed, no one thought Pac would beat Oscar (except for the Pacfans), and he fought Hatton at Ricky's weight class!

He's the top dog people should be coming to him not the other way around.

But I do agree, no title should be on the line if it isn't fought at the actual weight class the title resides. IMO, Catchweights are just for fights where people want to see two fighter meet who aren't in the same weight class.

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excuse my ignorance but I thought PAC-Mosley was pretty much done,
what happened there?
As did many people. There was negotiations done between everyone involved except Pac never had any say. Once he did, he said he had to weight his options.


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Cotto is wayyyyy over-rated. His record screams cautious and his much vaunted dominance of 147 has never really happened has it?

He's tailor made for Pac and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

mosley, judah, clottey, torres suggests a very good fighter with a good CV.

Anyone that beats shane mosley has got to be world class!!
I agree with that. Cotto beat Shane, and not just anyone can beat him.

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I don't know who the hell is advising Pacman but a fight with Cotto is a poor business decision for reasons I've stated in the other posts. And even though Pacman exhibits the signs of a humble champion he's also in it for the money. Everyone remembers that the Hatton fight was almost off until it was 52-48 in Pacmans favor?

Let's say theoretically that both sides have agreed on the 50-50 split for Floyd-Pacman, both of the purses should and probably will be in the 20 million dollar range with a gross percentage of PPV buys for both fighters not to mention that the fight has the possiblity of exceeding the 2.4 million and then you add in sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements, etc. And this has the potential of being the biggest money making fight of all time.

#1 pound for pound versus the former number 1 pound for pound but undefeated. The fight appeals to boxing fans, regular sports fans, and the general public. The financial and boxing rewards is far greater in the Floyd fight then the Cotto fight. So whoever is advising Manny to fight Cotto right now is making a poor business decision.

Just my 2 cents looking at it from a view as a business man.
I too also think Pac and his team deciding to fight other big names before a potential fight with Floyd happening is a bad idea, from a business standpoint.

But as a fight fan, I have to give him respect on the people he's trying to fight regardless of the situation.

C'mon guys! Barrera x2, Morales x3, Marquez x3, De La Hoya, Hatton and he's still looking to fight Shane, Floyd, and Cotto?! What other fighters want that!?

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As sick as i am of discussing catchweights.. I think this is a great fight.

Id be VERY happy if this fight was made.