Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

[generalbulldog]

Team Cotto wants 145... Team PAC wants 143... I'm guessing they can settle the weight issue in the middle... I'm also guessing Team Cotto will happily accept a 60/40 purse split in favor of PAC...
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"If you wanna be the champion, if you wanna take my title, I think you better have to come and take it."
Marvin Hagler to all the guys who challenged him.


I have always loved this quote. If Pacman wants Cotto's title and belts fight him at his best which is 147. A catchweight is a farce, especially if it's for any titles.

I think Team PAC will not force for a title/belt to be at stake... What Team PAC will surely negotiate is the catchweight...

I'm also guessing PAC will be the favorite in the betting against Cotto...
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No catch weights. Many fans really don't like that catch weight thing. If Pacman can't fight someone at their best, then just don't fight. I sure wonder if Roberto Duran ever had a catch weight clause in his contract against Hearns, Leonard, Hagler? And considering he was about the same height and build as Pacman.

[Gandalf]

"If you wanna be the champion, if you wanna take my title, I think you better have to come and take it."
Marvin Hagler to all the guys who challenged him.


I have always loved this quote. If Pacman wants Cotto's title and belts fight him at his best which is 147. A catchweight is a farce, especially if it's for any titles.

I think Team PAC will not force for a title/belt to be at stake... What Team PAC will surely negotiate is the catchweight...

I'm also guessing PAC will be the favorite in the betting against Cotto...
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No catch weights. Many fans really don't like that catch weight thing. If Pacman can't fight someone at their best, then just don't fight. I sure wonder if Roberto Duran ever had a catch weight clause in his contract against Hearns, Leonard, Hagler? And considering he was about the same height and build as Pacman.

Yes, catch weights are so.....

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

As sick as i am of discussing catchweights.. I think this is a great fight.

Id be VERY happy if this fight was made.

[Spicoli]

This pains me to say but I think Manny beats Cotto.He does not have the over all size of a Margarito or Clottey but accuracy and speed in droves.Cotto was showing some of that stationary-squat posture....began punching wider as the rounds went on.... a quick in and out guy could take advantage off.

[XaduBoxer]

"If you wanna be the champion, if you wanna take my title, I think you better have to come and take it."
Marvin Hagler to all the guys who challenged him.


I have always loved this quote. If Pacman wants Cotto's title and belts fight him at his best which is 147. A catchweight is a farce, especially if it's for any titles.

I think Team PAC will not force for a title/belt to be at stake... What Team PAC will surely negotiate is the catchweight...

I'm also guessing PAC will be the favorite in the betting against Cotto...
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No catch weights. Many fans really don't like that catch weight thing. If Pacman can't fight someone at their best, then just don't fight. I sure wonder if Roberto Duran ever had a catch weight clause in his contract against Hearns, Leonard, Hagler? And considering he was about the same height and build as Pacman.

I have no problem with catchweights as long as no one was FORCED to accept a catchweight... Catchweight do exist in boxing and I believed if a boxer agree to a catchweight then that boxer believed that he can win the fight at that catchweight... No problem at all...

[mnmc10]

duran started at 118 according to boxrec pac on the other hand started at 106. thats a 12lb difference duran to me looks like big boned and bulkier than pac.

pac is actually fighting over his limit, its just that there are no opponents with quality for him to fight at lower weights. and the big money is on the higher weights thats why pacs team is pushing every bit just to make it a more even match.

[blegit]

What happened to the Mosley fight? Mosley called Roach's bluff in every aspect and they realized that would be a bad matchup for Pac. Cotto right now is all right for Pac. Cotto is possibly about 2 fights from being shot. He has taken tremendous punishment in his career and much as of recent. His skin has a lot of scar tissue and will be susceptible to cuts every fight now. Roach and Pac saw what everyone else did. Cotto is ripe for the picking and even riper if they can get him to drain himself below 147. Cotto is war-ridden and getting softened up more and more. He needs to take a break until next year. But he is too much of a warrior and we will see him soon. Despite how Arum tried to cover it up that cut is very bad and will only be thin skin in November.

[generalbulldog]

duran started at 118 according to boxrec pac on the other hand started at 106. thats a 12lb difference duran to me looks like big boned and bulkier than pac.

pac is actually fighting over his limit, its just that there are no opponents with quality for him to fight at lower weights. and the big money is on the higher weights thats why pacs team is pushing every bit just to make it a more even match.

And Duran fought even higher than his body's limit going toe to toe with the great Marvin Hagler and even won a belt at that weight against Barkley. Pretty impressive for a guy that started at 118 huh? But he didn't do it at a catch weight. The only other superstar fighter that did that was Leonard against Lalonde for his light heavy weight title. Hence many real boxing fans think that Leonard was unworthy of the nickname Sugar Ray.

I say if this fight happens Pacman kos Cotto after Cotto weight drains himself at 141 pounds for the welterweight title fight. Cotto accepts the fight after he is offered an offer he can't refuse like something in the neighborhood of $8 million for the fight guaranteed with a percentage of the ppv sales.

This fight at any catchweight is a farce just like the Leonard-Lalonde fight.

[BIG H]

I still see Cotto beating Pac, not changing my view.

[Phil]

excuse my ignorance but I thought PAC-Mosley was pretty much done,
what happened there?

[Gandalf]

excuse my ignorance but I thought PAC-Mosley was pretty much done,
what happened there?

Pac turned .

Shame really because it's a quality matchup.

[BIG H]

excuse my ignorance but I thought PAC-Mosley was pretty much done,
what happened there?

Pac turned .

Shame really because it's a quality matchup.

I really think Mosley would destroy Pac. Mosley is a big Welter Weight, who has been in with people as big as Winky, I think he would beat Pac down.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

duran started at 118 according to boxrec pac on the other hand started at 106. thats a 12lb difference duran to me looks like big boned and bulkier than pac.

pac is actually fighting over his limit, its just that there are no opponents with quality for him to fight at lower weights. and the big money is on the higher weights thats why pacs team is pushing every bit just to make it a more even match.

rubbish. I should neg rep you for posting crap.

they're not looking for an even anything, they're looking for every physical and mental advantage they can for their man at the risk of someone else.
If Roach gave a shit he'd say manny can't fight above this weight that's final. Not well I know this guy will be dead at the weight so it's ok for manny for move up and fight him but we're not going to fight anyone live.