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I do like Murray and his "fight me like a man" sort of Duran esque attitude, as i've said before, but this is a tough fight for him. McCallister was giving Murray problems and catching him alot before Murray finally wore him down. I just think Khan will run and hit with much more stamina than Mccalister and probably hit harder too.......

My main hope in this fight, although Murray is not a massive hitter, is that Khan won't be able to escape a dig or two for the whole fight. Kotelnik, IMO, was useless, absolutely useless, and Khan hit glove all night. I don't see Khan avoiding all Murray's shots and Murray is definately the kind of guy who will go to hell and back John Duddy style for a win. If Kotelnik could rally Khan in the last round or two, then he sure as hell could have got in closer earlier IMO. Murray will get closer to Khan for sure...
I would love to see Murray fight Katsidas that would be a great fight.
Definately mate, would like that too.


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I do like Murray and his "fight me like a man" sort of Duran esque attitude, as i've said before, but this is a tough fight for him. McCallister was giving Murray problems and catching him alot before Murray finally wore him down. I just think Khan will run and hit with much more stamina than Mccalister and probably hit harder too.......

My main hope in this fight, although Murray is not a massive hitter, is that Khan won't be able to escape a dig or two for the whole fight. Kotelnik, IMO, was useless, absolutely useless, and Khan hit glove all night. I don't see Khan avoiding all Murray's shots and Murray is definately the kind of guy who will go to hell and back John Duddy style for a win. If Kotelnik could rally Khan in the last round or two, then he sure as hell could have got in closer earlier IMO. Murray will get closer to Khan for sure...
Kotelnik is better than Murray. Period. End of.

Maybe it's because I'm not from Manchester, but I don't see pretty much anything special in John Murray, he strikes me as a homeless man's Ricky Hatton.

I also don't see what in the name of the lord he has done to earn a shot at a world title at 135, let alone 140. I see an unprofessional brat (see his behaviour at the Lawton weigh-in) who spends his time whinging about how he should get to fight Khan, but has done little to earn it. If McAllister had fought sensibly he might have troubled him.

Murray has little to no defence, apart from moving his head like Tyson, but doing it so it can be timed. He also isn't comfortable with good movers. I reckon Khan KO's him after 7. I just really don't see how this guy is rated so highly. If Khan beats him, people will simply say what I'm saying now, he wasn't anywhere near good enough to be fighting at that level.
Jaz, can't go with you on that, don't like Kotelnik, although I agree on the unproffesional show for Lawton. Murray struggles to get motivated for poor fights, which Lawton was, this i know, hopefully he got a absolute rollocking, which I believe he did from Mick hennessey.

Now, i'm not sayin that Murray is special by any stretch, I just love his fighting style and would watch him over Khan any day of the week.... Thats just what i like to watch, two people willing to go to hell and back to win, fights like Corrales Castillo, Casamayor Katsidis, Ward Gatti, etc, i'll never get a fight like that out of Khan period. Theres also no way in hell a " He hasn't done enough to earn a title shot" can come into it. Hell, Khan is the champ at that so that debate ends early.

Anyways, you cover what I said, that Murray struggles with the movement, which he showed against McCallister yes. He will struggle with Khans speed and movement for sure, and definately has been easier to hit with his bad defense, but he's a million times more aggressive than Kotelnik, is faster and has a better array of punches too. I think its a more interesting match-up than a Khan mid KO and certainly wouldn't have Khan winning by a stretch atall. He will test Khans Stamina and Will for sure IMO so I guess we'll see..... I'll eat the crow if i'm wrong, but we'll see....