Boxing is back big time.

[JazMerkin]

Geezus Lyle this is getting a bit creepy. I don't even know if the grin smilie was appropriate there.

...so I'm out of line in saying that David Haye (given his performance vs Valuev) is not "Bringing Boxing Back"

I'm sorry, the guy ran his mouth before the fight saying how "The heavyweights are boring, the heavyweights need excitement, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and he puts out that performance (broken hand or not) and then his fans expect everyone else to respect that piece of shit?!?!?! He doesn't know the meaning of the word OUTSIDE the ring, he certainly showed enough respect for Valuev's power IN the ring.

Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather are HUGE PPV draws while David Haye is a regional celebrity and that is a FACT.


Oh but I am soooo sorry, I extend my heartfelt appologies to David Haye and all his little fans, I should never have spoken evil of such a marvelous fighter

But Haye did 1m PPV sales for his last fight, so regardless of where it is, he's a PPV draw. They print money over here too you know.

He's nowhere near the star that they are yet, but he's at a very different point in his career. They're both a fight or two away from retirement. Is he a bigger star than Pacquiao after beating Barrera or Mayweather after beating Castillo? I'd argue that by virtue of his weightclass he is.

Golden Boy would not have had him out before the Pacquiao-Cotto fight if they didn't think he was going to be a success.