Has anyone hit bottom faster than Jones?

[hitmanhatton]

Can't argue with that. He had a good excuse for the first Tarver fight, Tarver II he looked not too bad, you could argue he just got caught, it happens. But after that he was unrecognizeable. I think Tarver II gave him a good taste of his own mortality, and that messed with his confidence in a big way.

The knockout didn't make him bad. Roy was there for the taking the moment he moved down from Heavyweight.

An oft used excuse by his fans, but hardly provable. I was basing my point on the way Jones actually fought in the ring. Sure the weight loss had an effect, but there was obviously something else going on. The Jones that fought Johnson, and after that, was not the same fighter as the one that fought Tarver I & 2, not even close. But if you wanna say otherwise, go ahead.

the move down from HW did effect him in a big way, and then perhaps once he was ko'd once it made him more hesitant and cautious... he lost his aura of 'invincibility'