I think people are SO hypercritical when it comes to fighters. Nobody can even challenge Pavlik right now and that bothers everyone. So why don't you all juts hate Hopkins for beating him? I mean he's the one who let the air outta the balloon for everyone?

And Hopkins.. can you call Orneleus a real opponent? A man who made his career 2 divisions below where he fought BHop? I have more hate in my heart for Hop based on him still trying to get the RJJ fight than anything else in boxing.

I think it's pretty obvious that he would rather face a B+ opponent with a recently injured hand that Williams. Is that not logical to you guys? I think he didn't really consider what a douche he would look like as he dragged negotiations on with Pwill for all that time. And now, it has affect the most important thing to him... his fans!!!

Pavlik will bounce back from the Hopkins loss. Hopefully he learned something, and he will fight on his toes more from now on. We'll see... but it's pretty sad everyone is so willing to write him off for what you call a top 5 P4P fighter. Personally I don't see Hopkins as that good, so I should be taking the loss with more weight than anyone else out there.