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Yeah but he is only 23. You cannot expect him to have faced the best in his division yet. He has only recently won a world title and he's planning on defending against a top 5 p4p'er. The reason Roach wanted the Morales fight is simple. It gives chance to share the ring with a legend. Khan will more than likely learn more from this fight then he would from destroying a mandatory inside 1 round. Khan hasn't been with Roach for that long and i believe he still has bad habits that Roach wants to eradicate before putting his arse on the line against a big puncher. it's common sense. Roach didn't get where he is by going all kamikaze on his fighters.

As much as the fighters you mentioned, took on dangerous opponents, they also took on 'safe bets' just like any other prospect has done. Mayweather wasn't in a fight where he wasn't the firm favourite until he fought Diego Corrales....just before he turned 24. That's why i'm saying give him time.

Incidentally Khan won't be the firm favourite against Marquez.
Yes Roach wanted Khan to fight Morales was because he's a legend with a name, but he was completely shot as a fighter. ANother legend that's shot, geez what a surprise!

Sure all of those legends I mentioned took safe fights, but up to a certain point, then they started taking on rank contenders and then champions. Then they took on dangerous fights. If Khan wants to learn his craft and have more tutelage under Roach, fine then he shouldn't have fought for a title and then calls himself an world champion. What kind of world champion keeps on taking easy fights?

Mayweather was only 21 and took on Genero Hernandez after only 15 or 16 pro fights, I don't remember him being an firm favorite in that fight, later on he took on a dangerous fighter in Manfreddy in the same year who had just stopped an prime Gatti earlier in the year. It's laughable to mention Mayweather's and Khan's name in the same sentence.

And like I said, enough with the "He's only 23" excuse. That's an sad excuse for an world champion to avoid dangerous guys like Tim Bradley and the hard hitting Maidana, both are even willing to take on Khan in England where he's going to have home court advantage with the ref and crowd.

But surprise surprise Khan is willing to take on another fading legend. BTW, at age 23 Leonard and Delahoya were fighting very dangerous opponents already, and they were both Olympians like Khan. They sure as hell didn't use the "I'm only 23 and you can't expect me to face tough challenges" excuse.
But that's the thing. You continually point out that Khan is a fraud yet you keep comparing his career to the likes of Leonard and De La Hoya. It doesn't make sense. If you think he's a fraud and if you think his name shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Mayweather then isn't it fair to be comparing him to fighters of a lesser level such as Ricky Hatton....who at a similar stage in his career, with the same promoter, hadn't fought anyone who was anywhere near world level, let alone a top 5 p4p'er.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be facing tough challenges, but i don't see why he needs to burn himself out and put his career on the line just as it's starting, to fight the toughest opponents for the least reward. Nobody is going to do that.
I don't know whether or not he's a fraud, but I'm sick of hearing he's only 23 excuse so many times and the he has to take easy fights because he's still a prospect. He's an world champ he ain't no prospect anymore. And why not use the greatest ever as an measuring stick? Every boxer aspires to be great like those guys.

Who takes tough fights for the least reward? Geez I don't know, Mayweather early at 130 against Manfreddy, Delahoya taking on Rafael Ruelas and Genaro Hernandez at 22 years old, Pacquiao taking on the lineal flyweight champ at 19 and then fighting JMM at 126 later in his career (JMM at that time was a high risk low reward type fight) after beating MAB.

Next year it's going to be he's only 24 years old excuse when he fights guys like Malinaggi or a shot Casamayor moving up to 140 or something like that or maybe he gets Erik Morales at 140.