Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
I was neutral on Floyd and Manny before hand, in fact if you check my history youll see iv "hated" on Floyd

So I have absolutely no bias towards Floyd but manny has made himself look a cuunt!!

I hate the little turd now, the only people defending him are Phillipino because hes their hero but even then they are doing it blindly knowing or thinking deep down why he was so against random blood testing.

Hes just done it for Clottey but 20 days out, whos to say he hasnt taken something the very next day?

Thats why he was so against randoms because he wouldnt be able to do that
If having a dislike of both fighters can be classed as neutral then I guess I was pretty neutral. After the Cotto fight I really did say to hell with it and decided I would even support him against Floyd, but after this whole debacle I have gone the other way. I hold Manny with deep suspicion and don't trust anything that comes out of his camp because of the appalling inconsistency and contradictions.

There is no doubt in my eyes that he has fallen, but I was curious to know where others were at, whence the thread.
It's undoubtedly taken a hit in the short term, to early to tell long term. Whether it SHOULD or not is a matter of opinion. Generalbulldogs list of other fighters is one reason why I dont think he should, another reason is who the hell knows how many are on PEDs, could be talking about a massive majority due to poor testing, hell even with random tests Marion Jones flew past hundreds with flying colours, hence I dont see why any fighter's entire career should be discredited so handily.

On the bolded part I'd argue his camp have always been like that on any issue, signing with Golden boy for example and the crazy entourage he has on 24/7, not even Roach seems to get any sense out of them.