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Until the S6 what SMW was "The fighting champion?"...

IMO Froch may have had the toughest run of them all

Kessler prior 2 were Perdomo and Haussler

AA- Oral and Simon

Taylor- Froch and Lacey

Dirrell- Findley and Oganov

Ward- Miranda and Pudwill

Froch- Taylor and Pascal

Bute- Andrade and Miranda

Now outside of Froch who had won the title from a guy who is now a LHW champion and fought a former undisputed champion...Are we really going to pretend any of the others prior 2 were better then Butes?...At least Miranda is dangerous with 1 shot at anytime and he has only lost to Pavlik, AA and Ward...

Librado has only lost to a prime Kessler a version that most thought would beat Calzaghe....I can pull up the threads to prove even here 80% picked Kessler...Librado has KO wins over former world champions and a cuirrent one so he cant be that bad can he?......Who has Pudwill beat? Simon?...

C'mon lets be honest here the paper doesn't lie...
You can't just ignore the Super Six form.

Ward and Dirrell were totally unexposed before the tournament. They could have flopped but proved to be world-class fighters. Andrade is a good fighter. But he'd been slaughtered by a guy that has lost in the Super Six. Which is clearly a knock on the Bute win.

Bute may very well be the best supermiddle. But until he gets in the mix with those guys (the six other best fighters in the world) he shouldn't be regarded the best because quite simply he is not fighting the best
At the end of the day, Kessler's biggest win was Froch this last weekend. Froch entered the tournament with the best resume. Other than Froch, none of Kessler's opponents are better than Bute's.

Kessler's form is much better than Bute's though.

Andrade was unbeaten when Kessler cruised through him. Miranda has been ruined by every world-class fighter he's met (apart from 100-year-old Howard Eastman who still nearly KO'd him).

Are these guys any better than Beyer or Mundine?

Kessler also deserves credit for sharing a ring with Calzaghe. There's a great chance everyone in the Super Six, and Bute, would have a loss against Calzaghe.

The real crux of the argument here is - all the current top supermiddles are in the Super Six, so how can Bute prove he's the best? Quite simply he can't.