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another thing i disagree with is roach saying mayweather doesnt hit hard at the weight, i think he proved he hits plenty hard enough when he fought mosley, he buzzed him on numerous occasions i thought

To be fair mate you had it perfectly spot on with your original assessment. Roach is blowing hot air here, if he actually believes that floyd is on the decline after that performance he`d have himself commited in a mental home.

Hornfinger - pac will go toe to toe for 12solid rounds, he has done it with out and out warriors and mayweather aint a fighter. Floyds best chance against manny would be a performance not too dissimilar to saturday night. Take your opponent out of the game by making him come find you and fight him at your pace before eventually going through the gears and towards the end of rounds becoming the aggressor through sheer speed
He completely disproved that in Round 2 on Saturday when he took Mosley's best shots (this is Shane who has flat KO'd 80% of his opp) and came forward fighting. Not even talking the rest of the fight, he was doing it in that round. Not to mention his fights with Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez and Castillo.

His chin may have got overrated a bit in light of Saturday, but his heart shouldn't be underestimated, he's never shown a bit of quit in him. I'll catch heat for saying this, but for all warrior ways, I think Pac has shown a limit in the first fight with Morales and the second with Marquez, where he actually didn't want to go back out, Roach made him.

I think Mayweather will stop him in the 9th or 10th. As good as Pac is, he made some mistakes http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...=873381against Clottey that would have been punished by a better fighter. Not counting him out by any means, Pac is always quick out of the blocks and Mayweather is a slow starter, so it's possible he stops him early. One facet of Pac's game that has been overestimated in the last few days is his finishing ability, I'd definitely stress that imo, Shane is the better finisher of the two.
Mosley landed one monster all fight and that was the right hand that hurt floyd bad in the second. He then failed to follow that up and mayweather did an excellent job of getting through the right hand by keeping his guard up and smothering mosleys attempt to get clean shots off.

Sure he hurt floyd we all saw that. But he also ran out of ideas extremely quickly and seemed to lose the will to fight from 5onwards just going through the motions.

Wont happen with pac. You could even ask the most diehard of mayweather fans and they will tell you if that fight ever took place 1-4 would be the rounds where mayweather would have to neutralise his opponent and stay out of harms way early doors. Pacquiao can drop anyone at the drop of a hat. If he is losing the fight by a mile come round 10 he has that ability to pop the overhand and follow it up with a straight cross that can put anyone including floyd mayweather to sleep!!!