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It may seem absurd right now to suggest this as boxing is the hottest it's been in a long time.

But look at the ages of the combatant's involved.

Hopkins will be gone in 12 months, as will Mosely almost certainly.

J M Marquez, his brother Raphael and Israel Vasquez will all likely be retired within a couple years.

I'd imagine Floyd and Manny are maybe two fights each away from retirement.

Roy Jones will be gone.

The heavyweight divsion will most likely be in a piss poor state as the challenge of David Haye will most probably have been vanquished.

I'm trying to think who the big stars will be in two years time and I'm guessing it will be Dawson, Ward, Gamboa.

Do you think boxing will go through a quiet spell, a noticable dip for a couple of years until these guys establish themselves as household names?

I'm thinking between 2011 to the end of 2012. I wonder what the state of the sport will be like then.

Who do you think the breakout stars will be, and will Manny, Floyd et al be long gone?
Jeez Bilbo your such a kill joy, but seriously i don't think anyone at the moment. Will be superstars like Pacquiao or Mayweather, we still have.

Andre Berto
Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud
Roman Gonzalez
Koki Kameda
Amir Khan
Timothy Bradley
Devon Alexander
Paul Williams
Lucian Bute
Andre Dirrell
Andre Ward
Kevin Mitchell
Abner Mares
Yohnny Perez
Nonito Donaire
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Juan Manuel Lopez

ETC.

But yes i agree no one in that list really looks to be superstar material.
I just think take away Manny, Floyd and Oscar, and you'll struggle to get over 350,000 buys on virtually any card.

Haye Klitschko is probably the only big fight not involving those guys and with that probably taking place within the next year, and Floyd and Manny most likely not that much longer in the sport I can see boxing taking a bit of a commercial nose dive.

I think it's possible that in 2012 MMA PPV's will kick boxing's ass. I reckon the UFC could get 3 or 4 one million buys a year from now on with the right matchups, and outside of Manny and Floyd I can't see boxing having one.
No way! You have to understand demographics and the demographic the UFC has control 21-35 aren't the demographic who stay at home and watch Pay Per View, they go to Hooters or out drinking. There is a peak with that age group rather then a plateau like you get with older people. People who are grown up and want to watch the fight, those are the guys who consistently order PPVs more.

Also those numbers you post are extremely skewed as UFC does many more PPVs then HBO. 2007 was the first year they overtook HBO in PPV sales, That's worked so far but there's still a big question as whether or not that's sustainable. That's the big question and the constant fight for the UFC. It's also why they don't disclose all their PPV buys. 4 million is absurd Bilbo you're out of your mind boxing nor MMA will never do that.