in defence of a fellow hammer

[HattonTheHammer]

I must admit that I originally blamed the ball more than the goalkeeper, but I was out of my mind. I moved away from the that position, but yesterday I saw a game where a goalkeeper conceded what seemed to me an all too easy goal. It had echoes of this. Maybe it wasn't all the keepers fault and the ball is dodgy, but it was a weak shot that really should have been kept out.

Do you mean the first Germany goal? If so, that ball was travelling at 88 mph! So can understand the keeper not keeping it out!

Not the daisy cutter that Green couldn't get his body behind.

No, the Algeria/Slovenia game. It looked like the keeper was in slow motion or something. It didn't look like it should have gone in to me. Something slightly off about it.

you suggesting what i think your suggesting milo??

Nothing to do with the ball, Green just lost his ar$e, plain and simple. He was a centremetre away from having another howler that would've ended his career.

That said, I rate him as avery good keeper, just think only 9 starts aint enough experience for this level.

Don't think it will end his international career like it did to Scott Carson and Richard Wright

Only saving grace for green is that capellos hands are pretty much tied and he has to back his original choice now.

James obviously aint up to it and cant seem to get himself match fit, throwing in a rookie like joe hart would be a disaster waiting to happen

Team for algeria:

Green
Carragher, Terry, Dawson, A Cole
Gerrard, Carrick, Lampard, J Cole
Heskey, Rooney

Yeh, we deffo have to chnage the shape and Carrick is the only candidate for the holding roll until Barry is back.

Assuming everybody that is still therewas fit, this would be my team

----------------James-------------

----Johnson----Terry---King-----Cole

----------------Barry--------------

-------Gerard----Lampard-------J.Cole


---------------Heskey Rooney-------

In an ideal world i too would have james, king, barry and joe cole all in the 11

But lets face it we`ve taken a half fit squad and even at this early stage are feeling the affects of it