Well done usa!!

[AdamGB]

I don't know why everybody is so surprised...

We didn't even qualify for the Euro's. How exactly do you go from that to winning the world cup? Just making it past the first stage will be an improvement.

We are not an elite world class team... it's not the management, the players don't need to get inspired to awake some slumbering football rapture - we're just not that good, not much more to it than that I'm afraid.

If we were that good and it was management and tactics etc, then maybe we'd have only beaten Algeria (who haven't been in the world cup for 24 years and who's captain had never been in an international tournament) by 4 nil and not 5 nil. Not had a goalless draw

Massive hype job... every time round... ignore the papers...

No amount of changes is going to have us beating Brazil, Spain, France, Argentina etc. no fucking chance.

That's why I loved it when Newcastle went down... all these dick heads blaming the club owners and saying that Newcastle were a slumbering giant... as big as Chelsea etc... fuck off

This post is ridiculous Adam. So are you saying we should just give up supporting our national team and that we'll never amount to anything?

Besides it crap, as we SHOULD be good. We have some of the biggest clubs in the world, in fact I believe Man Utd is the biggest, we have arguably the best and richest premiership league in world football, and we have undoubtably several absolute world class players.

With the players, domestic infrastructure, fanbase, money, name etc we should be one of the top 4 or 5 teams in Europe no excuses.

Players like Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard etc could get into virtually any national team in the world. But they are not simply not performing.

That's not the best these players can do, not even close.

Not at all Bilbo... Algeria and the USA's etc fans are supporting their teams, who I'm sure 99% of them know are not going to win the world cup. Nothing wrong with that.

It's the arrogance and gullibility of the average English football fan during the pre tournament hype that gets me... we've 'consistently under performed for decades'... are you not seeing the pattern here?

A few of our players probably could get into most top clubs... but they wouldn't see half of the fuss that they do over here.. they wouldn't ge anywhere near the appraisal of accolades off the fans of those clubs.

They're treated like gods in this country... which is part of the reason why they think they don't actually have to play any football and still win.

It's a lot easier to play well when you're surrounded by the best players in the world, but when you're getting balls from the likes of Heskey and every touch you make needs to count for something thats when you see whether you're a good player or not.

Gerrard managed to trip over thin air for fucks sake... every touch of the ball Rooney had (all four of them) was bollocks... I could play a better game of football than he did, not even joking.

There's under performing and then there's being out played by Algeria... it's not like you could see we were better but nothing was coming together... England didn't look a class above Algeria... in my opinion Algeria were pretty unlucky not to walk away with 2 points.

good individuals don't make a good team... they don't have the attitude (Rooney being 'upset at the fans' who are stupid enough to make him obscenely rich says it all) to be a good team... and it's the team I'm talking about. I would be more shocked at us making the quater finals than I would if we went out this round.

Not saying don't support the team... but people need to get real... that way they'll be able to enjoy the cup instead of suffering the sheeple angst they seem to go through every time we 'underperform every time' (ie our expectations are always set higher than our actual ability)