Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
I wouldn't confuse being in shape for recreational gym/grappling training with being in shape for a profesional heavyweight contest at the elitest level...

You might feel in shape for what you do... but if you had to output that high an ammount of strength and energy for a sustained ammount of time in the gym... and every time you took your foot off the pedal for a second Vitali Klitscho ran over and smacked you one - you'd probably not feel as well conditioned as you do ripping out a few press ups!

We're talking about boxing here... and if it's not a lack of talent... it will be the ammount of extra dead weight he carries that will be his undoing.

You don't need to tell me that looks and size are not the best way to judge somebody's fitness... but even if Solis was ripped a 250-270 at 6 foot 1, he'd still be too big to be effective for a sustained time... it's only gonna get worse when the level he fights at gets better

The fact that it's dead weight just makes it worse.

He's at a career low... or just about, so he's probably put more work in than usual... but too little too late

He should always be in relativly good shape... and after training like a mother fucker he should now be in unbelievable condition... not 'a few pounds lighter'

He's not 'just naturally fat'

He came from Cuba... defected to become a pro and couldn't moderate himself very well with the sudden influx of freedom and $$$

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From what I've heard he needed to spend less time blowing money in strip clubs and god knows on what else (food being an obvious one) and more time on the road and in the gym.

The fact that he's got his weight down shows he has his act together a little bit at least... but too late in my opinion.

I'm not wrtting him off in this fight completely.. Vitali is starting to look old, but tbh I still expect him to fuck solis up.
I don't disagree with you, and my I'm not trying to imply I could go a few rounds with any pro athlete, and I wasn't aiming that at you. It seems many are writing him off as out of shape, based purely on looks, which is retarded. If he's an undefeated pro and 4 time amateur world champion, I'm guessing he's in shape for boxing, despite looks.