Utah / mesquite Nevada / Las Vegas.

[fan johnny]

Laws about drinking in Utah are ridiculous, be ready for that. You'll be heading down by Zion National Park, it's an absolutely gorgeous area. In Salt Lake City all of the addresses are based off of the main Mormon Temple, so you will see things like W 100 S as a designator of location in relation to the south east corner of the temple.

Don't listen to Youngblood standard tipping is 15%, 20% for good service.

I stopped giving tips after eating in this one Vietnamese Restaurant, we left a 10% tip because that was all the change we had in our pocket and this crazy waitress came running out of the restaurant shouting "What's wrong?, didn't you like the service? was there some wrong with the food? We were dumb-founded and we asked her "why?" she said "you only left this (6 dollar) tip."

That just pissed us off about tipping. It's called "gratuity" and for the last few years we stopped tipping (except when the service is exceptional) and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

[Dark Lord Al]

yes it sounds like zion will be a good option , my wife and I are meeting some good friends who live just outside Salt Lake , in Ogden.
Will be different than other breaks we have had, thanks for all the advice.

[superheavyrhun]

Laws about drinking in Utah are ridiculous, be ready for that. You'll be heading down by Zion National Park, it's an absolutely gorgeous area. In Salt Lake City all of the addresses are based off of the main Mormon Temple, so you will see things like W 100 S as a designator of location in relation to the south east corner of the temple.

Don't listen to Youngblood standard tipping is 15%, 20% for good service.

I stopped giving tips after eating in this one Vietnamese Restaurant, we left a 10% tip because that was all the change we had in our pocket and this crazy waitress came running out of the restaurant shouting "What's wrong?, didn't you like the service? was there some wrong with the food? We were dumb-founded and we asked her "why?" she said "you only left this (6 dollar) tip."

That just pissed us off about tipping. It's called "gratuity" and for the last few years we stopped tipping (except when the service is exceptional) and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

From now on, you shall be known as Mr Pink....oh hang on you had that nickname already...

[fan johnny]

Laws about drinking in Utah are ridiculous, be ready for that. You'll be heading down by Zion National Park, it's an absolutely gorgeous area. In Salt Lake City all of the addresses are based off of the main Mormon Temple, so you will see things like W 100 S as a designator of location in relation to the south east corner of the temple.

Don't listen to Youngblood standard tipping is 15%, 20% for good service.

I stopped giving tips after eating in this one Vietnamese Restaurant, we left a 10% tip because that was all the change we had in our pocket and this crazy waitress came running out of the restaurant shouting "What's wrong?, didn't you like the service? was there some wrong with the food? We were dumb-founded and we asked her "why?" she said "you only left this (6 dollar) tip."

That just pissed us off about tipping. It's called "gratuity" and for the last few years we stopped tipping (except when the service is exceptional) and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

From now on, you shall be known as Mr Pink....oh hang on you had that nickname already...

Sorry, sounds like good humor.... I'm not familiar with the reference, shoot me a link and I'll have a laugh.

[superheavyrhun]

[fan johnny]

LOL, you got me! "Mr. Pink" I'll have to watch that.

[Dark Lord Al]

zion, bryce,and hoover dam , all the places i think we will go.
staying at the Venetian Hotel in Vagas , a meal at Le Bouchon of Thomas Keller fame also booked.

anybody stayed at the Venetian ?

[greynotsoold]

Have they finished rebuilding Hoover Dam yet?
if you are a "bargain shopper" like me, Mesquite has $5 prime rib dinners.

[Diane]

zion, bryce,and hoover dam , all the places i think we will go.
staying at the Venetian Hotel in Vagas , a meal at Le Bouchon of Thomas Keller fame also booked.

anybody stayed at the Venetian ?

First, in Vegas did you sign up for email notices/offers from different hotels? That's the way to go to save some money. You'll get special deals/discounts that you won't get if you just go straight to making a reservation online.

Did you check the terms when you booked your room? A lot of hotels in Vegas have now started a policy that they will charge you an amenities fee in advance when you check in, and if you don't use it you'll get credited when you leave. When I went there for a week, I almost stayed at The Palazzo which is part of The Venetian, but luckily I happened to look at the terms and conditions and seen that besides the room rate, they were going to charge me an additional $150 per day in advance. Now I don't know if it was because I was staying a week, and I was there during New Years, so you may want to check your reservation out, just to play it safe if you want to use that money for something else. There was no way I would spend $150 a day in room service, etc., so I cancelled my reservation. Then I was going to get a suite at Planet Hollywood, because they have some cool suites, but they charged $100 per day in advance. Then I checked other hotels only to find the same thing. To me, that was gambling money, so I got a suite at Treasure Island, which was a bigger suite than both of those hotels for less money, and the only extra fee I got was $20 per day to be able to use my laptop in my room, and other little benefits. I stayed in a tower suite, instead of a regular quest room.

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If you like to hike, definitely head west about 1/2 hour from The Strip to Red Rocks. It's absolutely beautiful, and they have many different hiking trails.





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When are you going?

[Dark Lord Al]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

[killersheep]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

Glad you had a good time in our humble lands. Did you catch the fight?

[Dark Lord Al]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

Glad you had a good time in our humble lands. Did you catch the fight?

we did try but there were no good seats left , so i missed it live.

[Master]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

Glad you had a good time in our humble lands. Did you catch the fight?

we did try but there were no good seats left , so i missed it live.

You did not miss much. keep seeing the views and experience the way of life in the USA.

[Andre]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

Glad you had a great time and are back safe, sounds like a tourist living hell to me but each to their own, except for the meal of course, what did you have?.

[Dark Lord Al]

What a great part of America the canyon lands are , we went to The Valley of Fire - Kolob Canyon - Grand Canyon - Hoover Dam - saw a show at Touacon - Mesquite were we hit the slots and tables did a wine tasting - then on to Las Vagas to the Venetian Hotel which is great , followed that with a meal at Bouchon , Thomas Kellers restaurant , which was superb , also we saw the show Jersey Boys.

Just an amazing trip all round, would recomend it to anyone.

Glad you had a great time and are back safe, sounds like a tourist living hell to me but each to their own, except for the meal of course, what did you have?.

I had potted Terrine de Froie gras de conard with toasted french bread.

Then i had the Gigot d'Agneau with wild mushrooms baby artichokes crispy lamb belly sauce soubise.

Then we order the following desserts.
Tarte au citron.
Creme caramel.
Peach melba.
Marquise au chocolat.

Wine with starter was - sauvignon blanc from usa.
Wine with main - Nuits saint george Burgundy France.
Wine with dessert - Sauternes Bordeaux France.


Coffee and Grappa to finish with Petit Fours.


was great.