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    Default Re: (Miles get in here!) Ghetto grammar (Evening Standard)

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    I actually agree with every word of this.
    I agree too. Children shouldn't be allowed to get away with these base language forms in the classroom and as a parent I would be extremely annoyed to hear this kind of language in the home. Sure, speak how you want with your friends, I can't control that, but within the domain of the school and perhaps even the workplace it should be controlled and extinguished. Kids are always going to want to subvert language to appear cool and be in some way 'giving it to the establishment', but it is cheap, lazy and ugly.

    Again schools need to get strong with classroom discourse and the kinds of verbal interaction that are allowed to take place in classrooms. I am not one for getting too harsh on second language learners coming to terms with a new language, but native speakers who have grown up in a non-corrective environment who are flagrantly abusing their own language? I don't think it is acceptable at all.

    Everyone needs to be encouraged to broaden their linguistic and expressive capabilities. Those that can't do so to an effective degree will obviously struggle in life, but that shouldn't mean we give up on everyone and tolerate an open acceptance of crude forms such as 'innit' and excessive use of the word 'like' and so on. The writer of the article makes some valid and fair arguments really.
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    Default Re: (Miles get in here!) Ghetto grammar (Evening Standard)

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    I actually agree with every word of this.
    I agree too. Children shouldn't be allowed to get away with these base language forms in the classroom and as a parent I would be extremely annoyed to hear this kind of language in the home. Sure, speak how you want with your friends, I can't control that, but within the domain of the school and perhaps even the workplace it should be controlled and extinguished. Kids are always going to want to subvert language to appear cool and be in some way 'giving it to the establishment', but it is cheap, lazy and ugly.

    Again schools need to get strong with classroom discourse and the kinds of verbal interaction that are allowed to take place in classrooms. I am not one for getting too harsh on second language learners coming to terms with a new language, but native speakers who have grown up in a non-corrective environment who are flagrantly abusing their own language? I don't think it is acceptable at all.

    Everyone needs to be encouraged to broaden their linguistic and expressive capabilities. Those that can't do so to an effective degree will obviously struggle in life, but that shouldn't mean we give up on everyone and tolerate an open acceptance of crude forms such as 'innit' and excessive use of the word 'like' and so on. The writer of the article makes some valid and fair arguments really.
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    Haha, I can understand this for texts on my type of phone which is from the 19th century, but these modern phones can send emails and have keyboards!

    Youngsters are beyond lazy and should have their phones observed and be disconnected when this type of language is observed.

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