A Level Results

[Master]

Stop pissing on their parade, be happy for them, especially you Miles, i keeps you lot in a job.

[Gandalf]

Stop pissing on their parade, be happy for them, especially you Miles, i keeps you lot in a job.

It doesn't hurt to tell the truth though. Clearly you need to do a bit of work to get an A, but it's absurd to say that standards are rising when in reality all they are doing is manipulating things. It isn't good for anyone to see 'standards falling' and so every year we are dished out the same old mantra. British schools are a mess and these yearly propaganda reports are just pointless. It's like the Soviet 5 year plans. The economy always seems to be improving, but life always seems to suck.

[Master]

The cost of going to Uni is a lot and if I was around i would not have been able to afford it without the grant I was given. The system is set for the privileged now.

[Gandalf]

The cost of going to Uni is a lot and if I was around i would not have been able to afford it without the grant I was given. The system is set for the privileged now.

I was arguing this earlier with a friend and I agree. I am very angry about the idea that fees are 9 grand a year. Then you need to factor in lodgings and food etc. You could do it, but it means bank loans for the rest of your life. It seems like in every way the system is rigged for the banks to do well and for poor people to remain permanently poor or never given a chance. I would have balked if this was potentially my first year of university too.

And yet youth unemployment is well above 20%. You aren't even going to get a job if you have a degree. The whole thing is a sham and needs pulling apart. One big hoodlum fix going on.

[Master]

Agreed a lot of the students that graduate have big debt and have to do jobs they do not want like being teachers because the government were short of them, now they end up knocking on peoples doors selling sky or gas/electric.

[superheavyrhun]

Personally I think the change in the system is an improvement, even though it can mean that some people will pay back more of their student loan than in previous years. For those who are doing degrees to take them into highly paid professions, then it will cost more, however for those who go into regular jobs will often not reach the threshold to start repayments, which is 21k. The current threshold was 15k, which is where my wages have just breached after six or seven years after university.

I think it is fair that those who earn more because of their education contribute more to paying for their education, rather than expecting the taxes of everyone to communally subsidise their studies.

[Gandalf]

Personally I think the change in the system is an improvement, even though it can mean that some people will pay back more of their student loan than in previous years. For those who are doing degrees to take them into highly paid professions, then it will cost more, however for those who go into regular jobs will often not reach the threshold to start repayments, which is 21k. The current threshold was 15k, which is where my wages have just breached after six or seven years after university.

I think it is fair that those who earn more because of their education contribute more to paying for their education, rather than expecting the taxes of everyone to communally subsidise their studies.

I just think the university system is too vast and on the whole quite meaningless. Sociology, political science, media studies....in fact I believe whole swathes of academia to be largely pointless. A lot of the social sciences, though interesting, will get you nowhere in the real world. I went to university largely because my teachers were telling me that is what I needed for a good future and I never even used my degree for anything. It was only later on pursuing my MA which I paid for out of my own money that I studied something for any actual purpose. Youngsters really are being manipulated into a system that really doesn't pay back in any meaningful way.

It is oftentimes a waste and it is far more expensive than back in my day. University on the whole doesn't give people skills that they need in a workplace environment unless it is a specific course with an obvious career trajectory in mind. I believe that it is one of the great cons. People should pay back what they borrow, but if you are from a poor family, you do need to pay back that overdraft on graduating and those loans will be there on your back and the size of these loans is becoming quite ridiculous.