Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
I agree Bilbo on all you say there, but have to call some bull shit on this... The breakdown of the family unit. The liberal obsession with promoting gay equality, and single parent equality has denigrated the role of marriage so much that half the people of Britain no longer even consider it meaningful or important. It's had a catastrophic impact on our society.

Marriages dont fail because of those reasons and families dont break down because of those reasons.Ithink the real reason behind family values being down is the lazy way out in society of allowing your children to raise themselves combined with the anger passed down from generation to generation.

Marriage fails because couples dont work at the marriage; they expect it to be something it is not, it is a partnership and if their kids see that it is not a partnership then they dont want to form one themselves with the added legal attachment.

You cant blame a governments backing of equal rights for gays to have effected mans inherent laziness to not want to be the sole responsibly of their own childrens upbringing.Its all starts at home and it all ends up out in the streets.

The rest of the excuses for why, are just that.When blame gets put onto others outside of the family then it diminishes personal responsibility even further and allows the whole thing to continue.
People take sides..then do nothing but whinge about the other side of their one eyed views. Meanwhile real love orientated people raise their children correctly and millions of these are not church goers or educational wizards they just get on with the job and do it lovingly because they love their kids.

I'm not knocking gay rights here or blaming it on them Andre. What I am saying is that, in the name of equality, over the last 30 years it has become progressively more unacceptable to state that the traditional nuclear family, married mother and father raising their children, in a pair bond that is supposed to be for life, is the best way to raise a family.

Thank's to equality, to suggest this discriminates against homosexuals, single parents, long term cohabiting and more casual relationships. This flippant attitude to relationships, and sex in our increasingly permissive society, has led to literally millions of families that are either completely absent of a father, or less often a mother, or incredibly commonly children within a relationship that is no more than boyfiren/girlfriend, without the longterm, serious commitment and permanence that marriage provides.

The nuclear family is the foundation of our society. Take it away and families deteriorate, and ultimately society will too.

Make no mistake our country is in a perilous state. No respect for religion, no respect for the longstanding institutions that form the bedrock of our society, monarchy, government, judical system, police etc. We have little in the way of shared culture or anything beyond tribal allegiance to football teams to unite and bind us. Sexual morals have gone down the toilet, the inevitable unwanted offspring this has brought usually aborted, or else kept in exchange for a house. Art and music culture has become increasingly decadant and vulgar.

When you look through all of human history, when societies have reached this stage they do not long survive. People have a mistaken belief in permanence, thinking that nations, institutions, beliefs etc are all fixed. But they are not. We are likely to witness the catastrophic breakdown of our, and other societies in our very lifetimes.

When society abandons its values, cultural heritage, the belief in certain moral truth's and acceptable forms of behaviour, it ceases to be a functionable society.