Rioting scum causes and solutions

[Andre]

How long have you been married Bilbo?


How many kids?

and your point is?

Bilbo you've forgotten to put a capital A at the start of a sentence.

You see,right there,big part of the problem, punctuation / education.

What next, your spelling? Next you'll be thinking people should really have to put in back to society and pay for their own actions and weight. God for forbid.

[Kev]

How long have you been married Bilbo?


How many kids?

and your point is?

Bilbo you've forgotten to put a capital A at the start of a sentence.

You see,right there,big part of the problem, punctuation / education.

What next, your spelling? Next you'll be thinking people should really have to put in back to society and pay for their own actions and weight. God for forbid.

Education is critical actually. Did you know that in the UK 60% of working class white 14 year olds have a reading age of 7? What hope is there of the majority of these kid's having succesful careers?

30% of the UK's total wealth belongs to the top 5% of the population. It's one of the worst distributions of wealth in the developed world, Greece scores higher than us.

Many of the children in inner cities grow up with no father at all, or in dysfunctional, often violent and drug addicted households.

Prison holds no fear because for many it's actually prefarable to life on the streets.

The thing is people like to moan and bitch and make clueless uninformed demands that are just pathetic when you actually look into the problems.

[Andre]

Bilbo, you think a form of Communism to be the answer then?

[Kev]

Fucking hell no. Communism is an awful repressive system.

I'd like to go back to the values and practices of the pre war years, and maybe the frugal 50's.

Today's morality is all about personal happiness rather than personal responsibiltiy and it has fucked everybody up, myself included.

I'd love to live in a less permissive society where social norms were more virtuous and wholesome.

Today there are no boundries, not just for the youth, but for anyone. It has messed us all up and reduced the happiness of most people in the Western world.

Possesions and the fufillment of our desires doesn't make us happy, but our society revolves around those two things and we are all contaminated by it.

[Gandalf]

Bilbo, I like the points you are arguing in this thread. They strangely align with my own.

Clearly it's a shambles from top to bottom and more than ad hoc proposals are needed.

[Andre]

Fucking hell no. Communism is an awful repressive system.

I'd like to go back to the values and practices of the pre war years, and maybe the frugal 50's.

Today's morality is all about personal happiness rather than personal responsibiltiy and it has fucked everybody up, myself included.

I'd love to live in a less permissive society where social norms were more virtuous and wholesome.

Today there are no boundries, not just for the youth, but for anyone. It has messed us all up and reduced the happiness of most people in the Western world.

Possesions and the fufillment of our desires doesn't make us happy, but our society revolves around those two things and we are all contaminated by it.

True.

When things heat up, you'll find that the crap separates out from the rest of society and deals in hatred /greed etc and the good will continue or up their great work; this landscape allows for action on both ends of the scale and it is what will sort us all out.