ICB hit the nail on the head..
ICB hit the nail on the head..
Only one thing beat olivares, Cocaine, great Fighter.
Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....
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Agreed, he fought the best out there in a divison that was stacked with hard hitting Mexicans and slick boxers from all over the place. Castillo (a great trilogy), Herrera, Pimental, Medal, Rose etc
These were the days when fighters fought every month, Olivares had 13 fights in 1968 and 10 more in 1969, he fought 62 times in just 5 years before his first loss to Castillo!
Olivares, Castillo, Rose, Armstrong and Medal with Lionel Rose playing guitar and Olivares telling Castillo "this does not sound like La Cucaracha to me"
Last edited by THE THIRD MAN; 08-27-2011 at 02:18 AM.
Im not trying to discredit him, what im saying is i think he's overrated due to the fact. He's always mostly rated number 1 or number 2 on alot of rankings. And i couldn't disagree more with it, he was very good for a short period but he doesn't match up to some of the other mexican greats IMO.
Me and Bobby Neil were talking in the gym one day. Conversation got round to Bantams, him managing Alan Rudkin the talk was interesting. He told me when they were in the States before the Fight Olivares, was having an open gym day, so He decided to go and have a look. Ruben noticed Him and came over, and shook Hands. He was sparring Gonzales the Lightweight Champ, Bobby said first round was a feeler. Second round Ruben hit Him with a counter Lefthook and sparked Him. Rubin came over and with his thumb of his Glove pulled His eye open and said seen enougth. I asked Bobby what His feelings were his reply, Fucking Hell we got a problem
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Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....
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God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
He did this all the time, he never back away from a real fight, but he wasn't a wild fighter, he was calculated and measured. He got hit a lot because he did come forward and was relentless. His body punching was devastating, he would've given Barrera, Morales, Pacman, Hamed or anyone else a tough fight.
I had him ahead against Alexis when he simply ran out of gas by round 13. If Olivares isn't the best Bantam ever then it must be Jofre?
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