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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I must have watched a different Helenius in action this week. The one I saw had ridiculous hair, looked really out of shape and weird looking and I literally laughed out loud when I saw him. He was fighting some guy called the White Wolf who came to ring, fat, out of shape, slumped shouldered and looked like he was suffering from depression. I had him winning a dreary fight until about round 6 when his fatness and/or depression caught up with him and he stopped showing any desire. The man with ridiculous hair then stepped it up and knocked him out.

    I wasn't sure if it was a real fight or meant to be a parody?

    who cares what his hair looks like. all i know is that that ending was brutal!!! and let's look at wlads last fight. it was pathetic. a disgrace to heavyweight boxing. as bad as haye was, wlad did not look much better. BORING as usual. and scared to death to take any risks. helenius dispatched peter ( who some people a bit ago was calling him a beast!), brewer ( who ko'ed wlad) , and liakhovich in impressive manner.

    Damn guys, a person would think that action would call for at least a little props. all this in 16 fights!!!

    the heavyweight boxers have been lame the last few years. horrible.
    if helenius loses the extra weight, and works hard, he could be the new "hope."
    retarded hair or not! anything is better than boring ass wlad jabbing all night.
    at least helenius would have the heart to make it a real fight!!!

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I must have watched a different Helenius in action this week. The one I saw had ridiculous hair, looked really out of shape and weird looking and I literally laughed out loud when I saw him. He was fighting some guy called the White Wolf who came to ring, fat, out of shape, slumped shouldered and looked like he was suffering from depression. I had him winning a dreary fight until about round 6 when his fatness and/or depression caught up with him and he stopped showing any desire. The man with ridiculous hair then stepped it up and knocked him out.

    I wasn't sure if it was a real fight or meant to be a parody?

    who cares what his hair looks like. all i know is that that ending was brutal!!! and let's look at wlads last fight. it was pathetic. a disgrace to heavyweight boxing. as bad as haye was, wlad did not look much better. BORING as usual. and scared to death to take any risks. helenius dispatched peter ( who some people a bit ago was calling him a beast!), brewer ( who ko'ed wlad) , and liakhovich in impressive manner.

    Damn guys, a person would think that action would call for at least a little props. all this in 16 fights!!!

    the heavyweight boxers have been lame the last few years. horrible.
    if helenius loses the extra weight, and works hard, he could be the new "hope."
    retarded hair or not! anything is better than boring ass wlad jabbing all night.
    at least helenius would have the heart to make it a real fight!!!
    Did you really find him exciting last night though Stoppage aside that was as dull as any Wlad fight imo, and he was losing the fight up until the second half.

    His record is ok for a prospect sure, but as a realistic opponent to stop the Klitschko's his performance sucked. Lyakhovich is an awful, awful fighter for a former world champ. Nikolay Valuev dominated hin, won most every round. Valuev dominates nobody, the Lyakhovich fight was the only time he looked even half decent.

    I'd pick Tyson Fury to beat Lyakhovich better than Helenius did.

    At best, he might be almost as good as Tony Thompson, although I'd heavily fancy Thompson to beat him right now.

    He may have power, but he's nothing to get excited about.

    He'll fight for the title soon enough though, after all there is nobody else out there right now :/

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    Build Helenius up fightfan, Wlad will beat him easily as per usual.

    What makes Helenius such a great fighter? He beat a Sam Peter that just got the shit slapped out of him by Wlad and showed up heavy vs Helenius. He beat Brewster the very same way....right after Wlad whipped his ass. He beat Lyakhovich that was for all intensive purposes RETIRED...who's next? Rahman

    But that's fine, he can feast on the hasbeens like some Nordic Gerry Cooney, but when it comes time for a title fight he'll get what all the other undefeated fighters get vs Wlad.....a 1 in the L column.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    None of these guys really have a good shot at beating either klit, they should quit chasing that dream and beat up on each other. Lot's of good fights to be made while we wait for them to retire
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Build Helenius up fightfan, Wlad will beat him easily as per usual.

    What makes Helenius such a great fighter? He beat a Sam Peter that just got the shit slapped out of him by Wlad and showed up heavy vs Helenius. He beat Brewster the very same way....right after Wlad whipped his ass. He beat Lyakhovich that was for all intensive purposes RETIRED...who's next? Rahman

    But that's fine, he can feast on the hasbeens like some Nordic Gerry Cooney, but when it comes time for a title fight he'll get what all the other undefeated fighters get vs Wlad.....a 1 in the L column.

    I agree with all of this apart from your bastardisation of the saying 'for all intents and purposes'.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Build Helenius up fightfan, Wlad will beat him easily as per usual.

    What makes Helenius such a great fighter? He beat a Sam Peter that just got the shit slapped out of him by Wlad and showed up heavy vs Helenius. He beat Brewster the very same way....right after Wlad whipped his ass. He beat Lyakhovich that was for all intensive purposes RETIRED...who's next? Rahman

    But that's fine, he can feast on the has beens like some Nordic Gerry Cooney, but when it comes time for a title fight he'll get what all the other undefeated fighters get vs Wlad.....a 1 in the L column.

    he's NOT great. to be honest, all i have seen are the endings of his fights. but he does have good potential and that is what we are talking about. the KO's, the endings of these fights!
    and wlad probably would win, only by jabbing all night and dancing. i bet if they traded, helenius would do him like liakhovich or better yet, corrie sanders!
    i love that fight
    that much size and power and wlad dont do shit but jab anymore. perfect example? the haye fight. haye was scared to death and ran and didnt throw shit. did wlad press it? fuck no. hell, at least this green newcomer has some intent on his punches! to hurt a MF....


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    ....You mean we don't get French benefits

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    If they traded? Well how is Helenius' chin? Do we know? Wlad is smart enough to fight his fight and to be quite honest with you in the Haye fight Wlad was chasing Haye around, but after a while you rack up so many rounds it becomes less necessary to chase down and press the action because you're already ahead on the cards.

    I've no doubts Helenius is a good prospect, but IMO he's still a prospect and not yet a contender. Its best to get tested before you get a title shot.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Who is he ready for? What's a step up in class but not too big a step up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Who is he ready for? What's a step up in class but not too big a step up?
    Well if a retired boxer (or one that has just taken an ass whuppin) is too easy for him and the Klitschko's are too big of a step up then logic suggests he fight someone in between. Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Chagaev, Boytsov, Chambers, Thompson, Arreola, etc. If Helenius wants a title shot then eventually he's going to have to take on fighters not coming off of losses (like Sam Peter and Sergei Lyakhovich).

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Who is he ready for? What's a step up in class but not too big a step up?
    Well if a retired boxer (or one that has just taken an ass whuppin) is too easy for him and the Klitschko's are too big of a step up then logic suggests he fight someone in between. Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Chagaev, Boytsov, Chambers, Thompson, Arreola, etc. If Helenius wants a title shot then eventually he's going to have to take on fighters not coming off of losses (like Sam Peter and Sergei Lyakhovich).
    I know it is never going to happen but I'd like to see Helenius in with Haye. He would have his chin tested then and to be honest I think he would fail. Haye was scared against Wlad because he just couldn't get off. Numerous times he used very good footwork that would have got him in vs pretty much anyone else but everytime he looked for Wlad there was no one there and to make things worse the jab was. Helenius would not prove such a mobile and hard to catch fighter and if he couldn't hit Haye, he wouldn't hit Wlad much either. Not because Wlad is as fast on his feet as Haye or anything like that but because Wlad is a better boxer and has tuned his natural attributes very well now.

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