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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    What about a Strikeforce fighter? Melendez? Tyrone Woodley?

    Robbie Lawler?


    It's probably not going to be a UFC top 10 ranked welter imo as such a matchup isn't crazy. This will be an outside the box pick imo.

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Dana has pulled the switch, BJ Penn will now fight Diaz on the co mainevent.
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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Has this been confirmed? It was one of my guesses so I'm happy

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Dana has pulled the switch, BJ Penn will now fight Diaz on the co mainevent.

    Yeh has this been confirmed, n if so where'd you get your info from dude

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Themantonio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Dana has pulled the switch, BJ Penn will now fight Diaz on the co mainevent.

    Yeh has this been confirmed, n if so where'd you get your info from dude
    Yeah its confirmed, was talking to Dana last night and he said its a go....nah just bullshitting, it has been confirmed but i get my info from MMA's worldwide leader in UFC news, gear and events .
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    I was expecting Marquardt or a catchweight vs a top lightweight (Pettis, Jim Miller, Cerrone, Guillard, etc.), but Diaz is a great match for Penn.

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    This actually should be a better fight. Honestly the Diaz vs GSP fight had the potential to be a yawner considering Nick's performance against top wrestlers. Penn should make this a real standup war. Prior to Edgar boxing Penn's ears off I would have put BJ as a solid favorite to win it but now I think this is a much more closely matched fight and I wouldn't be suprised if Nick's awkward punching style and chin couldn't pull out a win. Dana might figure BJ will win and it gets Nick out of his hair for a while but if Diaz wins and particularly if he finishes BJ you have to figure he is right back in the title picture.
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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
    What?

    You just don't understand the definition of a crazy matchup do you?

    It could have only meant one of two things, either Benn was fighting Diaz, or else an opponent you would never expect. And that would obviously mean a fighter outside of his weightclass.

    Seeing as Hendo moved up to heavyweight to knock out Fedor and BJ Penn has also fought in multiple weight classes, including even fighting Lyoto Machida, a fighter outside his weight class was the only other option to a shock fight with Diaz.

    So I listed all the possible options and was right, he is fighting Diaz.

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
    What?

    You just don't understand the definition of a crazy matchup do you?

    It could have only meant one of two things, either Benn was fighting Diaz, or else an opponent you would never expect. And that would obviously mean a fighter outside of his weightclass.

    Seeing as Hendo moved up to heavyweight to knock out Fedor and BJ Penn has also fought in multiple weight classes, including even fighting Lyoto Machida, a fighter outside his weight class was the only other option to a shock fight with Diaz.

    So I listed all the possible options and was right, he is fighting Diaz.
    No i understand crazy match ups. Penn fought Machida in a no weight fight which they DON'T have in the UFC unless you forgot. All the people you said were just stupid fights why would Guida, Bendo want to fight a welterweight BJ Penn when they are both close to title shots that makes zeron sense and it just wouldn't happen. Much like Jose Aldo coming up two weight to fight BJ what the hell would that prove and what would be the point not to mention in the short period of time he couldn't get that weight on properly. Anyone could have thrown out a bunch of names and got it right. If this is a big accomplishment to you it doesn't say a lot!
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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
    What?

    You just don't understand the definition of a crazy matchup do you?

    It could have only meant one of two things, either Benn was fighting Diaz, or else an opponent you would never expect. And that would obviously mean a fighter outside of his weightclass.

    Seeing as Hendo moved up to heavyweight to knock out Fedor and BJ Penn has also fought in multiple weight classes, including even fighting Lyoto Machida, a fighter outside his weight class was the only other option to a shock fight with Diaz.

    So I listed all the possible options and was right, he is fighting Diaz.
    No i understand crazy match ups. Penn fought Machida in a no weight fight which they DON'T have in the UFC unless you forgot. All the people you said were just stupid fights why would Guida, Bendo want to fight a welterweight BJ Penn when they are both close to title shots that makes zeron sense and it just wouldn't happen. Much like Jose Aldo coming up two weight to fight BJ what the hell would that prove and what would be the point not to mention in the short period of time he couldn't get that weight on properly. Anyone could have thrown out a bunch of names and got it right. If this is a big accomplishment to you it doesn't say a lot!
    I was just listing some possible crazy fights. And Penn against all of those fighters is possible. I'm not saying I agree with them I was just listing what some likely crazy matchups might be.

    As Hendo moved up to knock out Fedor and Kenny Florian moved down to dominate Diego Nunes, Guida or Ben Henderson fighting BJ is not ridiculous at all. Would be great matchups and you may very well see those fights in the future.

    People are not a fixed weight, they go up and down all the time.

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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
    What?

    You just don't understand the definition of a crazy matchup do you?

    It could have only meant one of two things, either Benn was fighting Diaz, or else an opponent you would never expect. And that would obviously mean a fighter outside of his weightclass.

    Seeing as Hendo moved up to heavyweight to knock out Fedor and BJ Penn has also fought in multiple weight classes, including even fighting Lyoto Machida, a fighter outside his weight class was the only other option to a shock fight with Diaz.

    So I listed all the possible options and was right, he is fighting Diaz.
    No i understand crazy match ups. Penn fought Machida in a no weight fight which they DON'T have in the UFC unless you forgot. All the people you said were just stupid fights why would Guida, Bendo want to fight a welterweight BJ Penn when they are both close to title shots that makes zeron sense and it just wouldn't happen. Much like Jose Aldo coming up two weight to fight BJ what the hell would that prove and what would be the point not to mention in the short period of time he couldn't get that weight on properly. Anyone could have thrown out a bunch of names and got it right. If this is a big accomplishment to you it doesn't say a lot!
    I was just listing some possible crazy fights. And Penn against all of those fighters is possible. I'm not saying I agree with them I was just listing what some likely crazy matchups might be.

    As Hendo moved up to knock out Fedor and Kenny Florian moved down to dominate Diego Nunes, Guida or Ben Henderson fighting BJ is not ridiculous at all. Would be great matchups and you may very well see those fights in the future.

    People are not a fixed weight, they go up and down all the time.
    The difference is Hendo had nothing he wanted to prove at LH as he had the title so moving up made sense just like Florian he had no business at LW because he could beat BJ so he's trying his luck at another weight. The guy's you've listed have no reason to move weight for a fight that means nothing.
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    Default Re: Diaz out of GSP fight, Condit IN - Diaz may be cut

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    Actually, maybe he plans to offer Nick Diaz BJ Penn instead of GSP
    BJ is welterweight now he wont want to fight at light weight so all those guys are out. I just read from BJ's twitter he excepted the crazy fight so we will find out soon! I doubt its Nick Diaz because Dana said he wouldn't trust Nick again so i doubt he puts him on the same card let alone any card.
    Nothing to stop one of them moving up or fighting at catchweight. I'm guessing crazy fight must mean unexpected so I still reckon Shields, Guida and Ben Henderson are the likely picks.

    Total wildcard guesses, Jose Aldo and Chael Sonnen. You wouldn't expect that now would you.

    If it's a guy in his own weight class, what would be crazy about that? Unless it's Jake Shields, which would be a very good matchup.
    You just don't understand weigh classes do you?
    What?

    You just don't understand the definition of a crazy matchup do you?

    It could have only meant one of two things, either Benn was fighting Diaz, or else an opponent you would never expect. And that would obviously mean a fighter outside of his weightclass.

    Seeing as Hendo moved up to heavyweight to knock out Fedor and BJ Penn has also fought in multiple weight classes, including even fighting Lyoto Machida, a fighter outside his weight class was the only other option to a shock fight with Diaz.

    So I listed all the possible options and was right, he is fighting Diaz.
    No i understand crazy match ups. Penn fought Machida in a no weight fight which they DON'T have in the UFC unless you forgot. All the people you said were just stupid fights why would Guida, Bendo want to fight a welterweight BJ Penn when they are both close to title shots that makes zeron sense and it just wouldn't happen. Much like Jose Aldo coming up two weight to fight BJ what the hell would that prove and what would be the point not to mention in the short period of time he couldn't get that weight on properly. Anyone could have thrown out a bunch of names and got it right. If this is a big accomplishment to you it doesn't say a lot!
    I was just listing some possible crazy fights. And Penn against all of those fighters is possible. I'm not saying I agree with them I was just listing what some likely crazy matchups might be.

    As Hendo moved up to knock out Fedor and Kenny Florian moved down to dominate Diego Nunes, Guida or Ben Henderson fighting BJ is not ridiculous at all. Would be great matchups and you may very well see those fights in the future.

    People are not a fixed weight, they go up and down all the time.
    The difference is Hendo had nothing he wanted to prove at LH as he had the title so moving up made sense just like Florian he had no business at LW because he could beat BJ so he's trying his luck at another weight. The guy's you've listed have no reason to move weight for a fight that means nothing.
    People go up and down in weight all the time mate. Franklin ans Wanderlei fought at a catchweight, Anderson went up to beat Forrest Griffin then straight back down again. It wouldnt have been unusual for the UFC to organise a fight between fighters of adjacent weight classes, especially seeing as BJ seems to flip between two weight classes anyway. As soon as he loses to Diaz he will be down chasing Cerrone, Henderson and Guida anyway and then you will see just how silly your objections are.

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