Haye

[erics44]

Haye doesn't deserve another shot, but it would be justice to see him knocked out. Wlad is the weaker of the two brothers by a considerable margin. Vitali would stomp on his younger brother and slaughter Haye.

why would it be justice?

[erics44]

haye doesnt deserve a title shot straight away but like it or not Haye is still the most dangerous opponent for the Klits at the minute

he has little chance of winning but more than anyone else

[ninjaspy3]

haye doesnt deserve a title shot straight away but like it or not Haye is still the most dangerous opponent for the Klits at the minute

he has little chance of winning but more than anyone else

I think so too. Povetkin has zero chance of actually winning.
As much as I like Chambers, he has no chance either.
I'm not sure what's up with Demintriko, but he is lacking something, so I don't give him much chance either.

Most of the others are either too old, too green (Helenius) or too rusty.

Actually I would like to see Arreola vs Wladimir. That's about it though.

[Dave Hughey]

I wish market forces weren't driving the fight game into the ridiculous scenario where Haye gets to fight both champions, coming into the HW division from cruiser and bypassing the more deserving top ten contenders, especially since he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against Vitali. Ridiculous.

I would like to see Haye have to fight his way up through the division. Especially I would like to see Haye fight Hellenius, Arreola, Dimetrenko, Povotkin. Boytsov, Chagaev. Anyone in the top ten. For Vitali to fight Haye after his unexciting performances against Vlad, Ruiz and Valuev is just not good for boxing. It's only good for short-term profit. In this day and age no-one thinks about the long term. Us boxing fans should wise up and pull an all-out sit-down stay-away strike against this Haye vs. Vitali fight.

I also think he'd get his ass whipped a few times if he had to fight his way up. There's good talent in the heavyweight division now.

[erics44]

I wish market forces weren't driving the fight game into the ridiculous scenario where Haye gets to fight both champions, coming into the HW division from cruiser and bypassing the more deserving top ten contenders, especially since he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against Vitali. Ridiculous.

I would like to see Haye have to fight his way up through the division. Especially I would like to see Haye fight Hellenius, Arreola, Dimetrenko, Povotkin. Boytsov, Chagaev. Anyone in the top ten. For Vitali to fight Haye after his unexciting performances against Vlad, Ruiz and Valuev is just not good for boxing. It's only good for short-term profit. In this day and age no-one thinks about the long term. Us boxing fans should wise up and pull an all-out sit-down stay-away strike against this Haye vs. Vitali fight.

I also think he'd get his ass whipped a few times if he had to fight his way up. There's good talent in the heavyweight division now.

who do you think would beat him?

[Rantcatrat]

This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?

[erics44]

This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?

ninjapsy3 is German

[ninjaspy3]

This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?

Adamek doesn't have head movement though. He is not very elusive. So I think that part evens out as Haye has at least proven that he can dodge. I mean seriously, who esle has dodged Wlad's punches? Byrd? Anyway, at least Haye has some power in his punch to at least keep things interesting. When Adamek hit Vitali, you could not tell it had happened. I don't think Haye will win but he has the physical traits to perform better than Adamek.

Haye's worst enemy is his low work rate I think.

[boxingbantz]

This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?

Trust me, only the stupid public (and erics44) will be excited by this farce. The vast majority of proper boxing fans can't stand the fraud anymore.

[Dave Hughey]

I wish market forces weren't driving the fight game into the ridiculous scenario where Haye gets to fight both champions, coming into the HW division from cruiser and bypassing the more deserving top ten contenders, especially since he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against Vitali. Ridiculous.

I would like to see Haye have to fight his way up through the division. Especially I would like to see Haye fight Hellenius, Arreola, Dimetrenko, Povotkin. Boytsov, Chagaev. Anyone in the top ten. For Vitali to fight Haye after his unexciting performances against Vlad, Ruiz and Valuev is just not good for boxing. It's only good for short-term profit. In this day and age no-one thinks about the long term. Us boxing fans should wise up and pull an all-out sit-down stay-away strike against this Haye vs. Vitali fight.

I also think he'd get his ass whipped a few times if he had to fight his way up. There's good talent in the heavyweight division now.

who do you think would beat him?

I'm not even sure who would beat him. Hellenius could, that's for sure. Arreola could. I think Adamek could (unless he is now brain damaged). Povetkin. Any of those top ten have a chance, and we'd get some real fights because Haye would come out of the closet and try to win, like he used to at cruiserweight, not just duck and dodge to survive and get paid. I'd love to see those fights. Instead, we are going to get Haye-Vitali. Snore.

[Dave Hughey]

I wish market forces weren't driving the fight game into the ridiculous scenario where Haye gets to fight both champions, coming into the HW division from cruiser and bypassing the more deserving top ten contenders, especially since he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against Vitali. Ridiculous.

I would like to see Haye have to fight his way up through the division. Especially I would like to see Haye fight Hellenius, Arreola, Dimetrenko, Povotkin. Boytsov, Chagaev. Anyone in the top ten. For Vitali to fight Haye after his unexciting performances against Vlad, Ruiz and Valuev is just not good for boxing. It's only good for short-term profit. In this day and age no-one thinks about the long term. Us boxing fans should wise up and pull an all-out sit-down stay-away strike against this Haye vs. Vitali fight.

I also think he'd get his ass whipped a few times if he had to fight his way up. There's good talent in the heavyweight division now.

who do you think would beat him?

I'm not even sure who would beat him. Hellenius could, that's for sure. Arreola could. I think Adamek could (unless he is now brain damaged). Povetkin. Any of those top ten have a chance, and we'd get some real fights because Haye would come out of the closet and try to win, like he used to at cruiserweight, not just duck and dodge to survive and get paid. I'd love to see those fights. Instead, we are going to get Haye-Vitali. Snore.

Haye is now just one of the top ten contenders. It's a talented group of fighters. I wish they'd have a tournament to see who gets to fight a Klit. Not sure Haye would win, not at all sure. I am sure he doesn't deserve to fight for a title right now.

[erics44]

I wish market forces weren't driving the fight game into the ridiculous scenario where Haye gets to fight both champions, coming into the HW division from cruiser and bypassing the more deserving top ten contenders, especially since he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against Vitali. Ridiculous.

I would like to see Haye have to fight his way up through the division. Especially I would like to see Haye fight Hellenius, Arreola, Dimetrenko, Povotkin. Boytsov, Chagaev. Anyone in the top ten. For Vitali to fight Haye after his unexciting performances against Vlad, Ruiz and Valuev is just not good for boxing. It's only good for short-term profit. In this day and age no-one thinks about the long term. Us boxing fans should wise up and pull an all-out sit-down stay-away strike against this Haye vs. Vitali fight.

I also think he'd get his ass whipped a few times if he had to fight his way up. There's good talent in the heavyweight division now.

who do you think would beat him?

I'm not even sure who would beat him. Hellenius could, that's for sure. Arreola could. I think Adamek could (unless he is now brain damaged). Povetkin. Any of those top ten have a chance, and we'd get some real fights because Haye would come out of the closet and try to win, like he used to at cruiserweight, not just duck and dodge to survive and get paid. I'd love to see those fights. Instead, we are going to get Haye-Vitali. Snore.

ademek and areloa could but 99 times out of 100 wouldnt

provetkin could, but whats the point he has no power and has no chance against a klit

helenius looks good at the minute, is he ready?

[erics44]

haye doesnt deserve a title shot straight away but like it or not Haye is still the most dangerous opponent for the Klits at the minute

he has little chance of winning but more than anyone else

I think so too. Povetkin has zero chance of actually winning.
As much as I like Chambers, he has no chance either.
I'm not sure what's up with Demintriko, but he is lacking something, so I don't give him much chance either.

Most of the others are either too old, too green (Helenius) or too rusty.

Actually I would like to see Arreola vs Wladimir. That's about it though.

Yep Provetkin and Chambers would never beat a Klit coz they cant punch

with helenius tho you never know, he has some good impressive wins, i am starting to be convinced, i used to think he was just fighting these x champs at the right time but even so he is doing a very good job

I'm not sure about arreola v Wlad, Id watch it but i think it would be a one sided beating like the rest

[#1FightFan]

haye doesnt deserve a title shot straight away but like it or not Haye is still the most dangerous opponent for the Klits at the minute

he has little chance of winning but more than anyone else

NO he is not. Robert Helenius is!!!! At least the finnish giant tries!
How can someone be dangerous when they are running the whole time, and not throwing any punches? Solis deserves another shot too. He was landing quite a bit till he hurt his knee/leg.

[erics44]

haye doesnt deserve a title shot straight away but like it or not Haye is still the most dangerous opponent for the Klits at the minute

he has little chance of winning but more than anyone else

NO he is not. Robert Helenius is!!!! At least the finnish giant tries!
How can someone be dangerous when they are running the whole time, and not throwing any punches? Solis deserves another shot too. He was landing quite a bit till he hurt his knee/leg.

I like helenius, and i agree he could be one to challenge in the future, at the minute he is very inexperienced, IMO at the minute Haye stands more of a chance with his speed, i think both brothers would have a reasonably easy time with helenius, its a hard one to call tho

When Solis and Vitali fought i thought Solis was winning the round and that is the first time I have seen Vitali losing a round for a long time. He did hurt his leg but he was badly shaken by the punch, bad leg or not it wouldnt have lasted much longer. So does a guy who was blown away still have a better chance than haye?

Isnt solis still injured anyway?