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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

    Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?
    Adamek doesn't have head movement though. He is not very elusive. So I think that part evens out as Haye has at least proven that he can dodge. I mean seriously, who esle has dodged Wlad's punches? Byrd? Anyway, at least Haye has some power in his punch to at least keep things interesting. When Adamek hit Vitali, you could not tell it had happened. I don't think Haye will win but he has the physical traits to perform better than Adamek.

    Haye's worst enemy is his low work rate I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

    Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?
    Adamek doesn't have head movement though. He is not very elusive. So I think that part evens out as Haye has at least proven that he can dodge. I mean seriously, who esle has dodged Wlad's punches? Byrd? Anyway, at least Haye has some power in his punch to at least keep things interesting. When Adamek hit Vitali, you could not tell it had happened. I don't think Haye will win but he has the physical traits to perform better than Adamek.

    Haye's worst enemy is his low work rate I think.
    They didn't face the same opponent. Why are we convinced Haye has more power in his punch? Who has he knocked out that was had a big-time chin? Even giving Haye the advantage in punching power, Haye is facing the tougher Klitschko. I thought his punching power would only help him against Wlad who has a suspect chin. Vitali's chin is anything but suspect. I don't believe he's ever even been on the canvas (right?). Moreover, why would Haye change his strategy from when he faced Wlad with his fight against Vitali? He'll still run around in circles and be afraid to engage and it'll lead to a boring fight. Thus, if we know he is going down in defeat, the fight will be boring, and he hasn't fought anyone to merit the title shot, I ask again, why are we supporting it?

    If Haye is such a showman and entertainer and has so many fans, why doesn't he fight Arreola and then Povetkin and then challenge Klitschko? He makes more money and he earns his title shot and proves that he is the best challenger out there for Vitali. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

    Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?
    Adamek doesn't have head movement though. He is not very elusive. So I think that part evens out as Haye has at least proven that he can dodge. I mean seriously, who esle has dodged Wlad's punches? Byrd? Anyway, at least Haye has some power in his punch to at least keep things interesting. When Adamek hit Vitali, you could not tell it had happened. I don't think Haye will win but he has the physical traits to perform better than Adamek.

    Haye's worst enemy is his low work rate I think.
    They didn't face the same opponent. Why are we convinced Haye has more power in his punch? Who has he knocked out that was had a big-time chin? Even giving Haye the advantage in punching power, Haye is facing the tougher Klitschko. I thought his punching power would only help him against Wlad who has a suspect chin. Vitali's chin is anything but suspect. I don't believe he's ever even been on the canvas (right?). Moreover, why would Haye change his strategy from when he faced Wlad with his fight against Vitali? He'll still run around in circles and be afraid to engage and it'll lead to a boring fight. Thus, if we know he is going down in defeat, the fight will be boring, and he hasn't fought anyone to merit the title shot, I ask again, why are we supporting it?

    If Haye is such a showman and entertainer and has so many fans, why doesn't he fight Arreola and then Povetkin and then challenge Klitschko? He makes more money and he earns his title shot and proves that he is the best challenger out there for Vitali. Right?
    Man, he has more power that Adamek for sure, can we at least agree on that one??
    And what is all this with "running". Im so tired of hearing it. I have seen fights where it really did look like one fighter was running but for God's sake, why are so many people confusing dodging punches with running. There is a difference. And it is not a sin to be elusive and make the other guy miss.

    It's like people are just seeing what they wanted to see.

    The problem was not that Haye "ran". The problem was that he dodged but did not follow up with counters enough, he did not commit to some of the shots, and he needs to increase his work-rate. If everyone wants to be a critic, at least let it be valid crticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This time around people won't be fooled into thinking Haye has a chance and there will be much less excitement. Only in England people are fans still excited about Haye even after his dismal showing last time out. Haye doesn't have half the chin Adamek has and Vitali is more ruthless than Wlad, so this one won't go the distance.

    Remind me again: why do we want Haye to get another pay check when he doesn't deserve it and he has no chance in this fight?
    Adamek doesn't have head movement though. He is not very elusive. So I think that part evens out as Haye has at least proven that he can dodge. I mean seriously, who esle has dodged Wlad's punches? Byrd? Anyway, at least Haye has some power in his punch to at least keep things interesting. When Adamek hit Vitali, you could not tell it had happened. I don't think Haye will win but he has the physical traits to perform better than Adamek.

    Haye's worst enemy is his low work rate I think.
    Hard to addmit but Adamek, while being brave, has 0% chances. He was too slow, too weak to break to the defence of Vitali. David Haye had better chanches to surprise Vladimir. But looks like he didn't have courage enough to try. He just wanted to survive to keep his trashtalking machine alive.

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