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    You got it spot on. Only thing I would add is...

    Cortez also says 'Lets Go' when he motions the action back on.

    Ortiz just wasnt thinking clearly at that point and im not sure he even heard Cortez say it as a result
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    Can not get a decent replay is there one up yet?, but i did not see a box on but if it was then it was legit and Ortiz let himself get duped. Silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_C View Post
    You got it spot on. Only thing I would add is...

    Cortez also says 'Lets Go' when he motions the action back on.

    Ortiz just wasnt thinking clearly at that point and im not sure he even heard Cortez say it as a result
    I posted mine before I read yours. I agree with everything you wrote in your post and your follow up.

    Ortiz just doesn't have a high quality boxing IQ and Floyd is damned near Einstein in that area.
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    Yeah I agree with that assessment MM.

    Boxingtalk have a good write up where they say Ortiz deliberately fouled Floyd then turned into a submissive puppy dog, all apologetic and begging forgiveness.

    It reminded me a bit of the Khan Maidana fight where, after almost being KO'd Khan suddenly wanted to start hugging his opponent who just kept trying to hit him.

    Ortiz should have been paying more attention.

    But what Floyd did was a real bitch move, although if I'm honest, pretty fucking gangsta.

    His verbal spat with Merchant though was disgraceful. He has no respect for anyone and Larry, for all his bravado looked visibly shaken by it to me.

    He should get a big fine for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Yeah I agree with that assessment MM.

    Boxingtalk have a good write up where they say Ortiz deliberately fouled Floyd then turned into a submissive puppy dog, all apologetic and begging forgiveness.

    It reminded me a bit of the Khan Maidana fight where, after almost being KO'd Khan suddenly wanted to start hugging his opponent who just kept trying to hit him.

    Ortiz should have been paying more attention.

    But what Floyd did was a real bitch move, although if I'm honest, pretty fucking gangsta.

    His verbal spat with Merchant though was disgraceful. He has no respect for anyone and Larry, for all his bravado looked visibly shaken by it to me.

    He should get a big fine for that.
    Nice post. Yup, Floyd acted in a less than sportsmanlike way...but legal. The Merchant thing was disgraceful I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_C View Post
    You got it spot on. Only thing I would add is...

    Cortez also says 'Lets Go' when he motions the action back on.

    Ortiz just wasnt thinking clearly at that point and im not sure he even heard Cortez say it as a result
    I watched the replay. Ortiz didn't appear to hear it.

    It is one thing if a ref says hey lets fight and one guy is apologizing or touching gloves and the other one punches. You can say, hey we are here to fight so I fought.

    But Floyd pretended to embrace Ortiz's apology and sucker punched his ass. He pretended so that Ortiz wouldn't put up his guard to fight.

    That is a punk move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_C View Post
    You got it spot on. Only thing I would add is...

    Cortez also says 'Lets Go' when he motions the action back on.

    Ortiz just wasnt thinking clearly at that point and im not sure he even heard Cortez say it as a result
    I watched the replay. Ortiz didn't appear to hear it.

    It is one thing if a ref says hey lets fight and one guy is apologizing or touching gloves and the other one punches. You can say, hey we are here to fight so I fought.

    But Floyd pretended to embrace Ortiz's apology and sucker punched his ass. He pretended so that Ortiz wouldn't put up his guard to fight.

    That is a punk move.
    That's what I was thinking. Ortiz got what he deserved but I don't think Floyd gained any fans by doing that. Floyd does not care about the fans anyway, he is in there for the money.

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    The fix was in. If Cortez called fight back on why was his eyes looking outside the ring even after two hard shots landed. Cortez didn't even look at the fighters even after ortiz was down. His head and eyes were looking outside the ring at ringside. He did the same thing to Hatton when Mayweather purposely stuck his head outside the ropes and then took a point off after Hatton hit Mayweather. Is Cortez Mayweather's little boy? A ref doesn't call a fight back on then refuse to look at both fighter. Who paid Joe off.

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    To people asking why Cortez was looking out of the ring. The answer is this, the headbutt happened near the end of the round, he called time, deducted a point, he called the fight back on and then looked at the timekeeper to see if the round was still going on as any ref would do to see if there was still time left in the round. So when Mayweather clocked Ortiz, Cortez looked at the timekeeper to see if the round was still going on and time keeper responded that the round had not ended as there was one second left before the knockdown, so Cortez started counting. Simple as that.
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    Floyd was winning just fine. Connecting effectively each round more than 15 punches while Victor was connecting 3 or 4. Not a classy way to win but if someone is fighting dirty, he will be dealt the same way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    To people asking why Cortez was looking out of the ring. The answer is this, the headbutt happened near the end of the round, he called time, deducted a point, he called the fight back on and then looked at the timekeeper to see if the round was still going on as any ref would do to see if there was still time left in the round. So when Mayweather clocked Ortiz, Cortez looked at the timekeeper to see if the round was still going on and time keeper responded that the round had not ended as there was one second left before the knockdown, so Cortez started counting. Simple as that.
    This is as factual as it gets.

    You know it's funny. The london riots taught me that when people are angry, the say and do some REALLY dumb shit.

    I'm glad at least some people are able to think clearly

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    When you call a fight on you look at the fighters, not at the timekeeper. Cortez was still looking at the timekeeper when Ortiz was on his ass. 15 seconds of looking at the timekeeper after calling the fight back on?!? Ya right. Just callin them as i see them. I really didn't care who won this fight, all i wanted to see was an entire fight, that ended the proper way, not on a ref screw up.

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