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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    If a ref wave's for a fight to continue, he should be damn well watching the f'n thing.


    What difference does it make? Ortiz was getting KOed right there if Cortez was watching or not. Surely you understand that?
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    If a ref wave's for a fight to continue, he should be damn well watching the f'n thing.


    What difference does it make? Ortiz was getting KOed right there if Cortez was watching or not. Surely you understand that?
    I do and I even said that, it would have made no difference if he was watching or not... But he waved the fight on and stopped watching it.. What if Floyd had of done a low blow, or a headbutt back in retaliation?.. The ref wouldn't have seen it.. You're there to referee the fight from start to finish.. You wave it on, you gotta be watching what happens...

    You stop the fight to seperate fighters and turn to the judges.. Then you return to paying attention to it and start the fight again..

    In this case yes, it would have made no difference to the outcome.. But it's incompetence...

    So we'll both be right in this case.. I'll settle for that..
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    If a ref wave's for a fight to continue, he should be damn well watching the f'n thing.


    What difference does it make? Ortiz was getting KOed right there if Cortez was watching or not. Surely you understand that?
    I do and I even said that, it would have made no difference if he was watching or not... But he waved the fight on and stopped watching it.. What if Floyd had of done a low blow, or a headbutt back in retaliation?.. The ref wouldn't have seen it.. You're there to referee the fight from start to finish.. You wave it on, you gotta be watching what happens...

    You stop the fight to seperate fighters and turn to the judges.. Then you return to paying attention to it and start the fight again..

    In this case yes, it would have made no difference to the outcome.. But it's incompetence...

    So we'll both be right in this case.. I'll settle for that..
    Yeah you settle for your if's and buts.

    The fact is Joe wasn't a factor.
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    I been reading twitter and everyone from Dan Rafael, Lou Dibella said Floyd did nothing wrong and had no problems. Dana White is pulling the Fire alarm, Max Kellerman said he was oppurtunistic. Lebron James was making Jokes. Lennox Lewis said when the ref says fight it dosent matter if the other guy looks away, the fighters were instructed to fight not hug. This whole thing is hilarious when you see how the outside world thinks that Ortiz is a retard
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Does no one find this funny shit i mean come on people fucker headbutts then hits him after. Then tries hug the guy while action called and gets knocked out in funny matter god people crack me up.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Yeah, I think we can at least all agree that Ortiz is as thick as shit.
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I been reading twitter and everyone from Dan Rafael, Lou Dibella said Floyd did nothing wrong and had no problems. Dana White is pulling the Fire alarm, Max Kellerman said he was oppurtunistic. Lebron James was making Jokes. Lennox Lewis said when the ref says fight it dosent matter if the other guy looks away, the fighters were instructed to fight not hug. This whole thing is hilarious when you see how the outside world thinks that Ortiz is a retard
    From what I've seen, most people (myself included) think that by the letter of the law Floyd did nothing wrong. That doesn't change the fact that it was a bitch move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I been reading twitter and everyone from Dan Rafael, Lou Dibella said Floyd did nothing wrong and had no problems. Dana White is pulling the Fire alarm, Max Kellerman said he was oppurtunistic. Lebron James was making Jokes. Lennox Lewis said when the ref says fight it dosent matter if the other guy looks away, the fighters were instructed to fight not hug. This whole thing is hilarious when you see how the outside world thinks that Ortiz is a retard
    It's what I said last night. All of this.

    And PLEASE some of you guys don't make any sense...we agree Ortiz was a muppet and after Cortez said let's go - Ortiz goes to give him a man hug BUT he's looking at Cortez? Seriously?

    Merchant always get's on Floyds case, most of the time I've found it funny but at the same time he can't be surprised if Floyd takes he bait.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I been reading twitter and everyone from Dan Rafael, Lou Dibella said Floyd did nothing wrong and had no problems. Dana White is pulling the Fire alarm, Max Kellerman said he was oppurtunistic. Lebron James was making Jokes. Lennox Lewis said when the ref says fight it dosent matter if the other guy looks away, the fighters were instructed to fight not hug. This whole thing is hilarious when you see how the outside world thinks that Ortiz is a retard
    It's what I said last night. All of this.

    And PLEASE some of you guys don't make any sense...we agree Ortiz was a muppet and after Cortez said let's go - Ortiz goes to give him a man hug BUT he's looking at Cortez? Seriously?

    Merchant always get's on Floyds case, most of the time I've found it funny but at the same time he can't be surprised if Floyd takes he bait.
    Larry Merchant isn't objective. He throws his opinions around too much. He mistreated George Foreman while he worked for HBO. He openly disliked Chris Byrd and Byrd called him out on it after one fight. He was more classy about it than Mayweather though. I always suspected Merchant was a high functioning drunk.

    EDIT - I just wanted to add a couple of things to my mini-rant. I was disappointed in Mayweather's poorly worded, profane, explosion of voiced emotions. He and his side-kick should both be embarrassed, however, it was a build-up of frustration due to Merchant's past interviews with him and others.....and of course his closing monologues that irritate me. Merchant lost his cool too. If he had not said, "If I were 50 years younger I would kick your ass!" he could have turned to the camera and said something like, 'There is a perfect example of how being a multi-millionaire can't buy a person class, an education or even half a brain. He is clearly being overly defensive of his cheap shots, although legal, that finished the fight.'

    I don't like Merchant and I always liked Mayweather but I saw a side of him I didn't like. He was winning and could have KO'ed Ortiz without the cheap shots and he would have looked much better in the long run. He had won every round.

    As for Merchant, I think this was his last year and his retirement was way over-due. I got real tired of his attitude and opinions and always saying things like, 'This is another black eye in the dying sport of boxing. I'm Larry Merchant with HBO. Why hasn't he been fired? He runs down the only sport that keeps him paid.
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    If id have been butted like Floyd had, id have steamed in at the first open chance i had. Floyd did nothing wrong in my eyes.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by standing8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I been reading twitter and everyone from Dan Rafael, Lou Dibella said Floyd did nothing wrong and had no problems. Dana White is pulling the Fire alarm, Max Kellerman said he was oppurtunistic. Lebron James was making Jokes. Lennox Lewis said when the ref says fight it dosent matter if the other guy looks away, the fighters were instructed to fight not hug. This whole thing is hilarious when you see how the outside world thinks that Ortiz is a retard
    It's what I said last night. All of this.

    And PLEASE some of you guys don't make any sense...we agree Ortiz was a muppet and after Cortez said let's go - Ortiz goes to give him a man hug BUT he's looking at Cortez? Seriously?

    Merchant always get's on Floyds case, most of the time I've found it funny but at the same time he can't be surprised if Floyd takes he bait.
    Larry Merchant isn't objective. He throws his opinions around too much. He mistreated George Foreman while he worked for HBO. He openly disliked Chris Byrd and Byrd called him out on it after one fight. He was more classy about it than Mayweather though. I always suspected Merchant was a high functioning drunk.

    EDIT - I just wanted to add a couple of things to my mini-rant. I was disappointed in Mayweather's poorly worded, profane, explosion of voiced emotions. He and his side-kick should both be embarrassed, however, it was a build-up of frustration due to Merchant's past interviews with him and others.....and of course his closing monologues that irritate me. Merchant lost his cool too. If he had not said, "If I were 50 years younger I would kick your ass!" he could have turned to the camera and said something like, 'There is a perfect example of how being a multi-millionaire can't buy a person class, an education or even half a brain. He is clearly being overly defensive of his cheap shots, although legal, that finished the fight.'

    I don't like Merchant and I always liked Mayweather but I saw a side of him I didn't like. He was winning and could have KO'ed Ortiz without the cheap shots and he would have looked much better in the long run. He had won every round.

    As for Merchant, I think this was his last year and his retirement was way over-due. I got real tired of his attitude and opinions and always saying things like, 'This is another black eye in the dying sport of boxing. I'm Larry Merchant with HBO. Why hasn't he been fired? He runs down the only sport that keeps him paid.
    To be fair, Foreman who has boxed more than Merchant was awful and Merchant had far more insight than big George ever did. Proof that you don't need to lace up to commentate on a boxing contest.

    Mayweather is a twat and that is a pretty much universal belief. Merchant doesn't butter up and good on him for having his integrity.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Easy work for Floyd tonight, Ortiz was getting beat easy, he cheated several times and was knocked the fuck out like he deserved to be. Good thing for him, Floyd would have brutalized him until he quit again.

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