Mosque Loud Speakers

[AdamGB]

Nope... only bullets, knives, sledge hammers etc.

You said it yourself! Gotta be able to hold and see it!

[Andre]

And this kind of thing? What is your material explanation? You cant say its the power of the mind and thoughts because that would also be proof that matter can change through feelings or thoughts which would have you acknowledge that a relm outside of the material rules it.

Excuse the obvious set up 'church meeting' type of thing this obviously is but this stuff happens all over the world it is just that large church organizations are the only ones who make it pubic.

WARNING ;-) If you dont want to be prayed for, turn off 30 seconds before the end.

[Gandalf]

My material explanation is that his traumatised mind was working overtime. Lights and meetings with Jesus are nothing exceptional and can all be explained rationally. It is the work of a damaged mind working overtime, there is nothing spiritual about it. I'm sure he believes it was real and justifies his current existence using it, but it is false.

Most people in accidents don't appear to meet god. and that is because noone actually does so. Utter bollocks and complete self delusion.

[Dave Hughey]

And this kind of thing? What is your material explanation? You cant say its the power of the mind and thoughts because that would also be proof that matter can change through feelings or thoughts which would have you acknowledge that a relm outside of the material rules it.

Excuse the obvious set up 'church meeting' type of thing this obviously is but this stuff happens all over the world it is just that large church organizations are the only ones who make it pubic.

WARNING ;-) If you dont want to be prayed for, turn off 30 seconds before the end.

LOL. Having a "near death" is sort of like having "near food". Would you eat it? Or like having a "near child", or a "near wife". Not the same as death. Death you don't come back from. Nobody knows what happens after death. It's all just speculation. Maybe this guy was just having a beautiful dream. He saw Jesus. I'll bet Hindus in the same situation might dream of Krishna.

I was watching a video this a.m. talking about this exact same thing. Said there have been four questions people have asked since the beginning of human consciousness.

1. Where did I come from?
2. Where will I go when I die?
3. What am I here for?
4. Who or what am I?

Said the first two questions you might as well forget about. It's all speculation and that's all it can ever be.

[Gandalf]

There have also been numerous people saying that they have been abducted by aliens. Unless they can prove it then I don't hold much credence to their viewpoints. You would think someone would have been able to steal at least something of unique value from one of these spacecraft at some point, but it's much the same as these tunnel at the end of a light folk. Most of them are probably believers to begin with. The god delusion already stamped across the lobes of the brain. On the whole people are idiots and unfortunately they pass on the idiotic values to their impressionable and unplanned offspring.

[Dave Hughey]

And this kind of thing? What is your material explanation? You cant say its the power of the mind and thoughts because that would also be proof that matter can change through feelings or thoughts which would have you acknowledge that a relm outside of the material rules it.

Excuse the obvious set up 'church meeting' type of thing this obviously is but this stuff happens all over the world it is just that large church organizations are the only ones who make it pubic.

WARNING ;-) If you dont want to be prayed for, turn off 30 seconds before the end.

LOL. Having a "near death" is sort of like having "near food". Would you eat it? Or like having a "near child", or a "near wife". Not the same as death. Death you don't come back from. Nobody knows what happens after death. It's all just speculation. Maybe this guy was just having a beautiful dream. He saw Jesus. I'll bet Hindus in the same situation might dream of Krishna.

I was watching a video this a.m. talking about this exact same thing. Said there have been four questions people have asked since the beginning of human consciousness.

1. Where did I come from?
2. Where will I go when I die?
3. What am I here for?
4. Who or what am I?

Said the first two questions you might as well forget about. It's all speculation and that's all it can ever be.

But questions number 3. and number 4. those questions are essential to really appreciating this life.

[Gandalf]

Yes they are and I take them quite seriously. The first 2 have nothing to back them up, so you might as well focus on being a good person without wasting time being semi forced into it because hellfire might be awaiting. It's better to be a good person just because you want to be.

[Andre]

Ok so whats you conclusion,why did all of his aliments get cured and continue to?

So you think 'the dream' created the list of miracle cures for this fellow that have now continued over the years?

Or all the doctors and all the specialists in the hospital had it wrong?

Or is the mind more powerful than all else?
(If this is the case you need to reevaluate your only material exists theory)

I mean its pretty impressive, back from dead, eventually sight back into a clinical dead eye etc after medicine and science says he is without any hope.

I think its fascinating because it doesnt happen to everyone in that situation it is rare but he isnt alone.

Life force healing energy is not visible, but it is here without any doubt and I recon this bloke got it dealt up in hearts.

Could he generate it alone? is a big question.

I say no, we are all one everything is connected so the whole is actually whole.

But for you back to question #1

[Gandalf]

Ok so whats you conclusion,why did all of his aliments get cured and continue to?

So you think 'the dream' created the list of miracle cures for this fellow that have now continued over the years?

Or all the doctors and all the specialists in the hospital had it wrong?

Or is the mind more powerful than all else?
(If this is the case you need to reevaluate your only material exists theory)

I mean its pretty impressive, back from dead, eventually sight back into a clinical dead eye etc after medicine and science says he is without any hope.

I think its fascinating because it doesnt happen to everyone in that situation it is rare but he isnt alone.

Life force healing energy is not visible, but it is here without any doubt and I recon this bloke got it dealt up in hearts.

Could he generate it alone? is a big question.

I say no, we are all one everything is connected so the whole is actually whole.

But for you back to question #1

So, why would most not recover? Clearly he is a special case and in some way physically all was not completely lost. There was a faint path back and it was fortunate enough to happen to him. But in 99.9% of cases of going blind, I would imagine that eyesight does not return. Why do some people die from cancer and others manage to get better, part of that is chance and a lot of it is down to greatly improving science.

Mental fortitude is clearly a positive factor, but that alone is not enough to help me lift a truck, beat a hangman having a free swing at my open neck nor fight off rapidly mutating cells.

I don't believe in miracles and believe that all things happen for a reason. Pretty much everything can be explained or if not then it typically is not a factor or does not exist.

[Andre]

Yeah of course there are time and constraint limits at this compressed level of being. All the things you mentioned there that the mind cant achieve instantly cant get done in time even by arrangement of machines, by others or by your own hand until it has passed through the mind and that doesnt just occur by chance either you get desire prior to the thought,they are all very real untouchable unseen forces that are a driving part of the whole.

Sorry I skipped the question, persoanlly I think most haven't a hope because they fall into victim mode where as others have a feeling of life force and power within and they lift their spirit out of the hole into survival mode into thoughts then the physical obeys the thought same as any action.