Haven't seen a few of those guys Rant.. But would you give anyone a realistic chance to beat Martinez? That's a pretty crucial element of a strong division, and I think Martinez is bounds above everyone else even though not as great as people think imo. Sure as hell couldn't see Sturm Barker or MAcklin having a hope.. I mean I'd put Mayweather as a favourite over anyone currently fighting there save for Martinez, and I don't think he belongs at 154 let alone 60.. Hell I'd give Cotto a decent chance to win a strap moving up and he's a blown up Junior welterweight with a lot of wear on him. Considering what a great middleweight can/should be, I think the division is definetly crap.