Hatton contemplated suicide

[Mars_ax]

just one thing, you know, depression doesnt correlate with lack of brains, it actually goes the other way - very intelligent people are more susceptible to depression and other mental illnesses, in fact, with many of our greatest scientists suffering from them. Brains wont help you escape a very real and debilitating condition. Social support is one thing that counteracts it well.

So its unfair to suggest Ricky is stupid and thus hes succumbed to depression. Just be careful how you color mental illness, it could be you one day and I hope you dont, but if you do, you can bet your boots you will see it very different from the way you do now - I just mean the orignal poster, not everyone, sorry ..I just realied I sounded aggressive there! I dont want to get ganged up on lol.

I didn't mean to suggest that Hatton is stupid because he gets depressed, it's more about his admitted heavy drug usage and drinking binges, and the fact that he's never seemed like the sharpest tack in the box. Just guessing i'd say much of Hatton's "depression" was temporary and brought on by losing the fight to Pacquiao, the drugs & alcohol just fueled the already existing problem.

If very intelligent people are more susceptible to depression and other forms of mental illnesses, then i'd say there's a good chance that Hatton's is short term.

[RohanKnight]

I didn't mean to suggest that Hatton is stupid because he gets depressed, it's more about his admitted heavy drug usage and drinking binges, and the fact that he's never seemed like the sharpest tack in the box. Just guessing i'd say much of Hatton's "depression" was temporary and brought on by losing the fight to Pacquiao, the drugs & alcohol just fueled the already existing problem.

sorry to be presumptive, and yes I really do hope he recovers fully and it doesnt become a slippery slope!

If very intelligent people are more susceptible to depression and other forms of mental illnesses, then i'd say there's a good chance that Hatton's is short term.

loool


personally I think Hatton wasnt stupid in comparison to Joe Calzaghe or other cherrypickers, he just really believed intaking on the best to become the best, and that is what competitive sport is all about at the end of the day. No point in being another Jack Dempsey (championship years, his manger drew the colour line), Calzaghe (1999-2006, by cherrypicking) or John L Sullivan (his whole life spent not fighting blacks, some of whom would have iced him) and only fighting half the eligible contenders, that makes you only half a world champion, which he already was - he wanted the whole pie. And fair play to him for trying when others knew they didnt have it in them to get higher than a portion of the world title. That is the stuff that makes REAL champions. If I ever was a boxer in real (reincarnated) life, I'd do the same unless I was so incapable of sorting my finances out that I had to cherrypick so as to get rich via the easiest route. Which is what Ricky has done, ironic given that people think hes dumb - he is light years ahead financially of the people who criticise him.

[JT Rock]

Hatton is probably Manic. He is very grandiose and is always seen and talks about living in excess at least in what he consumes.

Abusing your body and abusing drugs like cocaine and excess alcohol is going to strap a rocket engine on depression.

The nice think I observed about a Hatton is that he is a genuinely nice guy, so I hope he gets his life in order.

[Mars_ax]

I didn't mean to suggest that Hatton is stupid because he gets depressed, it's more about his admitted heavy drug usage and drinking binges, and the fact that he's never seemed like the sharpest tack in the box. Just guessing i'd say much of Hatton's "depression" was temporary and brought on by losing the fight to Pacquiao, the drugs & alcohol just fueled the already existing problem.

sorry to be presumptive, and yes I really do hope he recovers fully and it doesnt become a slippery slope!

If very intelligent people are more susceptible to depression and other forms of mental illnesses, then i'd say there's a good chance that Hatton's is short term.

loool


personally I think Hatton wasnt stupid in comparison to Joe Calzaghe or other cherrypickers, he just really believed intaking on the best to become the best, and that is what competitive sport is all about at the end of the day. No point in being another Jack Dempsey (championship years, his manger drew the colour line), Calzaghe (1999-2006, by cherrypicking) or John L Sullivan (his whole life spent not fighting blacks, some of whom would have iced him) and only fighting half the eligible contenders, that makes you only half a world champion, which he already was - he wanted the whole pie. And fair play to him for trying when others knew they didnt have it in them to get higher than a portion of the world title. That is the stuff that makes REAL champions. If I ever was a boxer in real (reincarnated) life, I'd do the same unless I was so incapable of sorting my finances out that I had to cherrypick so as to get rich via the easiest route. Which is what Ricky has done, ironic given that people think hes dumb - he is light years ahead financially of the people who criticise him.

Hatton had an exceptionally successful career, he created a fan base that most other Pugs simply dream of, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a net worth of over $100 million American. So really, how stupid could the guy be?

Just saying, no matter who you are, if you've got $100 mil in the bank, but you're snorting large amounts of cocaine, going drinking binges and contemplating suicide, then you aren't showing a high degree of intelligence, are you now.

[RohanKnight]

Just saying, no matter who you are, if you've got $100 mil in the bank, but you're snorting large amounts of cocaine, going drinking binges and contemplating suicide, then you aren't showing a high degree of intelligence, are you now.

If you scale down your money quote to 'just rich' instead of 'superrich', its funny how your quote describes a lot of people in the legal and medical professions - drinking binges at college, drug useand a high suicide rate amongst the professions. I am sure they were stupid in passing all their bar and med school exams.

You need to factor in that gradually changing situations and cause and effect over years of time. A lot happens on the road to people and they arent just depressed and stupid fullstop like a definition in a dictionary - though if that is what you or others need to beleive, so that you can look down on them and thus keep themselves on track than thats fine. BUt your point of view is the fulcrum on which people in danger of depression are left to fall ignomiously.

[Andre]

Just saying, no matter who you are, if you've got $100 mil in the bank, but you're snorting large amounts of cocaine, going drinking binges and contemplating suicide, then you aren't showing a high degree of intelligence, are you now.

If you scale down your money quote to 'just rich' instead of 'superrich', its funny how your quote describes a lot of people in the legal and medical professions - drinking binges at college, drug useand a high suicide rate amongst the professions. I am sure they were stupid in passing all their bar and med school exams.

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Very true,but there are degrees of stupidity, you have intelligence and IQ and then you have poor me types who believe they are victims of circumstance totally beyond their control when in fact they attract their own further downfall in it; where as others in the same situation wil use it as spring board to go further and embrace change.

In regards to money and position think it shows us that many people are driven not by their own heart but by others expectations or by their own ego which eventually fails to fill us too.

The richest of heart give back freely and grow way beyond their first aim.

[RohanKnight]

Very true,but there are degrees of stupidity, you have intelligence and IQ and then you have poor me types who believe they are victims of circumstance totally beyond their control when in fact they attract their own further downfall in it; where as others in the same situation wil use it as spring board to go further and embrace change.

you wirte very intelligently but you also have a misconception about what mental illness is in the form of depression.
Chronically depressed people are often the exact types who use the situation as a spring board and go further than those who fail. The two personality types you just described are not mutally exclusive at all, you cant say there is one group that fail and one group that dont by dint of their different personalities. Or else theres no way some of our greatest minds (who were mentally ill) would have acheived some of the greatest feat known to man, like Einstein's theory of relativity, and theres few things that are light years ahead of the crowd than that acheivement. Its not just Einstein, theres Woody Allen, Beyonce, John Lennon, Isaac Newton.

I understand you call it temporary though, yes -all the above people had ups after their downs and then downs again, generally the pattern of everyones life.It even possible that like some of the above, Ricky acheived what he did BECAUSE of a depressive illness that simply wasnt diagnosed at an earlier stage.

Totally agree with the rest of your post. it rings entirely true -

In regards to money and position think it shows us that many people are driven not by their own heart but by others expectations or by their own ego which eventually fails to fill us too.

The richest of heart give back freely and grow way beyond their first aim.

on a lighter note, he seems to have piled on some pounds recently too -