Hopkins vs. Dawson on HBO PPV Oct 15th (Offical Sat Night chat thread)

[FinitoElDinamita]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

[CFH]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

Who the fuck is James Toney to talk shit about anyone? He's been a joke for half a decade now.

[Mars_ax]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

Who the fuck is James Toney to talk shit about anyone? He's been a joke for half a decade now.

I believe Toney is jealous, Hopkins is still keeping himself in shape, winning championships and making good money and Toney is a has been.

[Spicoli]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

Quotes from a former *proven* washed up great who was last seen in a spoon fest with the grand daddy of mma and trying to convince fans the weighing what you did a lifetime ago translates to being relevant once again.

And I love Toney..I do.

Dawson has all the tools, always has. But he is more often lip service in delivery and tends to take long vacations. I bet the farm on Hopkins setting traps all night and having Dawson on a leash leading to a wide win on the cards. Dawson doesn't speak work rate.

[Gandalf]

Toney would knock Hopkins out even now at a CW of 190.

I think Dawson wins this by decision. Throwing 1000 punches in a bout is more than enough to nullify Hopkins 20 punches a round. Dawson will outhustle the old man.

[Leighton]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

I totally dissagree with you. Hopkins to me is a massive inspiration. He is 46 years old and ranked number one in his devision. Hes ranked number one in his devision for a reason, because he is better than everyone else. He has great counter punching and does not waste any energy, a very clever ringmaster. I think he beat Pascal the first time round as well.
What can you say about him if he beats Dawson. That will be a win over the two other top fighter in the devision. A great fighter who I would put in the top ten pound for pound boxers.

[Master]

Dawson would have been favourite a couple of years ago, I think Chad should win this, I hope I am wrong and Hopkins wins. We get to watch this free on Box Nation!!!

[J_C]

Why anyone would pick a KO in this fight I dont know, boggles the mind predicting that.

Interesting that the majority of fans on boxing sites favour Hopkins yet the bookies make Dawson a slight favourite.

[JonnyFolds]

This is a bad style match up for hopkins. Dawson knows how to use his range very well. He has a very solid chin, but he has no style really. He comes at you the same way with the same punches.

Dawson will carry the cards and Jim Lampley, and Larry merchant will remind us hte whole fight why we should not pay for primetime boxing.

Funny how they sell us on being sold for every PPV these days.

We should all note that the real loser in this fight, no matter whose hand they raise at the end, would be the boxing fans. They lost them by making this fight "exclusive" to people who can afford it.

[shza]

We should all note that the real loser in this fight, no matter whose hand they raise at the end, would be the boxing fans. They lost them by making this fight "exclusive" to people who can afford it.

If you don't want to pay for it, just avoid learning what happened and watch it on the free replay *one week later.*

This is a total 50/50 for me -- I guess I'd edge it to Dawson; but like someone said, that would have been an easy pick for me two years ago and is not at all now. Might be an SD.

Clearly no KO either way.

[Master]

Weird thing is that 2 years ago B Hop would have a better chance as he was younger but he seems to be getting better or at least staying the same high level whereas other fighters come and go. B Hop is an amazing man.

[Mar]

I don't know what it is but I see Dawson beating b hops ass . No ko or anything but he is more than quick strong skilled young and fit enough to bore us to death and punch punch hold clinch and move around Hopkins all night . Wouldn't surprise me at all . Dawson ain't all that great shit I think cloud would give him hell and maybe win , but he'll beat Hopkins ..... Maybe

[GAME]

Hopkins looked very slender at the weigh in. Its odd that at middleweight he seemed bulked up but two weight divisions higher he looks alot thinner.

Interesting that Hopkins got in Dawsons face at the weigh in but Chad didnt take the bait. I think if he did it would have escalated into a fight and Hopkins would have got what he wanted.

[Pugilistic]

Hops should retire after he gets his ass kicked by Dawson. He'd done enough insomnia curing so he should move on.. this fuckin conman.. He aint no throwback fighter like he claims to be..

" Hopkins is not old school. He an old foo "

- James Toney

Why are quoting that waste of talent ?

If Toney had half the discipline Hopkins had, his career would of been far better.

His opinion on Hopkins is invalid. He's just jealous of X because while Hopkins career continues to be successful, Toney's career is at an all time low.

Toney would knock Hopkins out even now at a CW of 190.

I think Dawson wins this by decision. Throwing 1000 punches in a bout is more than enough to nullify Hopkins 20 punches a round. Dawson will outhustle the old man.

A fat ass Toney knocks out Hopkins ? Toney can't even make 190, not without cheating anyway.

Throwing 1000 punches against Hopkins is alot easier said than done, just ask Calzaghe.

Dawson hasn't got the conditioning Joe had either, he has to outbox Hopkins and use his superior speed to win.
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[Mars_ax]

The more I think about this fight, the more I believe it could go 1 of two ways, either Chad or Bernard wins a boring SD, or for the 1st time in his Pro Career, Dawson fights like he's got a pair, puts on his best performance ever, and wins a clearcut UD, possibly even stopping Hopkins.

Just sayin' at 46 Hop has to have lost a step, you can't fool father time, if for once in his career, Dawson fights up to his full potential and 3 minutes of every round, it's possible that he could dominate this fight.