Hopkins vs. Dawson on HBO PPV Oct 15th (Offical Sat Night chat thread)

[Mars_ax]

The more I think about this fight, the more I believe it could go 1 of two ways, Chad or Bernard wins a boring SD or for the 1st time in his Pro Career, Dawson fights like he's got a pair, puts on his best performance ever and wins a clearcut UD, possibly even stopping Hopkins.

I think hopkins. Dawson lacks the ability to go the extra mile when he is pushed and I garetee that Hopkins will put him in that situation.

Just sayin' Chad has the skill/ability, to win this fight if he puts it all together and doesn't let Hop fight his fight. I question whether Hopkins could go 12 rounds with a focused, younger, stronger guy like Dawson who makes him work hard every round. I do agree with you however, about Chad being willing to go the extra mile, that remains to be seen.

[Leighton]

The more I think about this fight, the more I believe it could go 1 of two ways, Chad or Bernard wins a boring SD or for the 1st time in his Pro Career, Dawson fights like he's got a pair, puts on his best performance ever and wins a clearcut UD, possibly even stopping Hopkins.

I think hopkins. Dawson lacks the ability to go the extra mile when he is pushed and I garetee that Hopkins will put him in that situation.

Just sayin' Chad has the skill/ability, to win this fight if he puts it all together and doesn't let Hop fight his fight. I question whether Hopkins could go 12 rounds with a focused, younger, stronger guy like Dawson who makes him work hard every round. I do agree with you however, about Chad being willing to go the extra mile, that remains to be seen.

I may sound like a broken record but I cant see Dawson winning. Hopkins always finds a way to his opponent, irritates them into fighting his fight. The only way I see Dawson winning is if he is on Hopkins presurising him every second, in and out without commiting to power punches coz thats when Bhop counters you. Slow him down by making him work every second of every round. I just dont see Bhop letting him get his own way. I could be wrong but the only fight I have seen Bhop lose is Calzaghe. He won because of his stupid work rate, high punch output and ability to adapt.
I have not seen Jermain Taylor beat him. How did he win the fight.

[Mars_ax]

The more I think about this fight, the more I believe it could go 1 of two ways, Chad or Bernard wins a boring SD or for the 1st time in his Pro Career, Dawson fights like he's got a pair, puts on his best performance ever and wins a clearcut UD, possibly even stopping Hopkins.

I think hopkins. Dawson lacks the ability to go the extra mile when he is pushed and I garetee that Hopkins will put him in that situation.

Just sayin' Chad has the skill/ability, to win this fight if he puts it all together and doesn't let Hop fight his fight. I question whether Hopkins could go 12 rounds with a focused, younger, stronger guy like Dawson who makes him work hard every round. I do agree with you however, about Chad being willing to go the extra mile, that remains to be seen.

I may sound like a broken record but I cant see Dawson winning. Hopkins always finds a way to his opponent, irritates them into fighting his fight. The only way I see Dawson winning is if he is on Hopkins presurising him every second, in and out without commiting to power punches coz thats when Bhop counters you. Slow him down by making him work every second of every round. I just dont see Bhop letting him get his own way. I could be wrong but the only fight I have seen Bhop lose is Calzaghe. He won because of his stupid work rate, high punch output and ability to adapt.
I have not seen Jermain Taylor beat him. How did he win the fight.

Both of Hop's losses to Taylor were somewhat controversial, especially the 2nd one. The pattern in the 2 fights were the same, Taylor busier in many of the earlier rounds, and Hop coming on strong in the later rounds, but falling just short on the judges scorecards. Not a hell of a lot of action in either fight.

[Spicoli]

I think that firing Manny is a clear indicator that Dawson is not prepared to fight any way he has not already become accustomed too, and def not looking to attack a human truth test like Hopkins. If he goes aggresive it's foreign to him and Hopkins is no place to experiment at all...and if he coasts and does as he has he's not going to out Hopkins Hopkins. I've warmed to this match big time!

[Mars_ax]

I think that firing Manny is a clear indicator that Dawson is not prepared to fight any way he has not already become accustomed too, and def not looking to attack a human truth test like Hopkins. If he goes aggresive it's foreign to him and Hopkins is no place to experiment at all...and if he coasts and does as he has he's not going to out Hopkins Hopkins. I've warmed to this match big time!

Hopkins will try to get control early, if Chad lets him do that, he's just fucked, and there's just no way Dawson is going to outbox or out-think the old master.
Chad's best bet is to be the aggressor, pressure Hop and make a war out of it for 12 rounds or however long it lasts.

[Mars_ax]

Bump..

Let's get some discussions going on this fight and the 2 decent undercard fights.

[Gocougars3]

Bump..

Let's get some discussions going on this fight and the 2 decent undercard fights.

Kendall Holt over Danny Garcia. Holt has had a tough go, in and out of the ring but when he is good, he is very good and he does a lot of things I like. He sits down on his punches, he can move or bang. He has good power in both hands. It's also true he has been knocked down more than you would like. Danny Garcia has had a pretty easy path to this point.

[Rantcatrat]

Bump..

Let's get some discussions going on this fight and the 2 decent undercard fights.

Kendall Holt over Danny Garcia. Holt has had a tough go, in and out of the ring but when he is good, he is very good and he does a lot of things I like. He sits down on his punches, he can move or bang. He has good power in both hands. It's also true he has been knocked down more than you would like. Danny Garcia has had a pretty easy path to this point.

It's Garcia's biggest step up, but I give him a slight edge going into this fight.

[Low Blow Boxing]

Hopefully this turns out to be a good fight.. still don't think it's PPV good though.

[Rantcatrat]

The fight of the night is Danny Garcia versus Kendal Holt. Garcia has been moving up in the rankings, but this is his biggest test by far. Each has some pop. It's really a big fight for both guys. Doesn't the winner becomes the mandatory for Soto?

As for the main event, Hopkins could put on a boxing master class or Dawson could pick up where Calzaghe left off and beat Hopkins on volume and speed. Dawson needs to outjab Hopkins to win in my opinion. Hopkins needs to maintain his stamina and fight in spurts to win. It's a tough fight to call. On some days, I see Dawson winning and on others, Hopkins.

[erics44]

On boxnation we have degales european title fight then cleverly v bellew and then the american card

we might get to see more than just the main 2 on the british bill too coz the program is on for about 3 hours

i doubt ill stay up and watch it all but it should be nice none the less

the hopkins card is rammed with names isnt it

[Rantcatrat]

Does anyone find it a little odd that Hopkins hasn't talked much trash in the weeks leading up to this fight? He's been more quiet than usual...

[Mars_ax]

Does anyone find it a little odd that Hopkins hasn't talked much trash in the weeks leading up to this fight? He's been more quiet than usual...

I havn't really noticed Rant-cat, but then I try not to listen to much of Hopkins' bullshit. Hop usually hatches a mind game at the weigh-in, which is friday, i'll post a link to it if I can find one.

This might actually turn out to be a good fight, I believe it all depends on what version of Dawson shows up.