Do boxers fight for fans?

[Fenster]

No it's a silly naive notion.

As you've said - Every boxer strives for his best money option. If they can't get that they are matched with fighters they're expected to beat. Simple as.

Remember Ricky "man of the people" Hatton had one last fight "for the fans" in Manchester. It was PPV. The opponent was a retired lightweight coming off a loss.

a) Ricky still made millions from his "fight for the fans"

b) It was a gimme (meant to be)

Ricky was poorly

I think that was great business by Hatton. Not knocking him... just that was the exapmle I thought of.

you think he was poorly on purpose?

Not sure what you mean. You mean he was ill on the night of the fight?

He still won easy just had a little wobble. Nothing to serious.

[JT Rock]

I think fighters have to wanna take the physical abuse, not because of the "fans"

"Fans" pay the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ million revenue for fights.

So of course we need to be schmoozed and have token "I fight for the fans" mentions so we keep the revenue going.

Its all about US, think about it. The sponsors pay big bucks, why? because us fans buy the product. We buy what everyone is selling in a boxing promotion. We buy the good guy and wanna see him win. We buy the bad guy so we wanna see him get sparked. We buy the goods and services, we read the articles, we post on the forums etc..

So inside I feel any athlete could care less about the fan, but realize the millions of people that they dont know are essential to their wallet and way of life

[erics44]

No it's a silly naive notion.

As you've said - Every boxer strives for his best money option. If they can't get that they are matched with fighters they're expected to beat. Simple as.

Remember Ricky "man of the people" Hatton had one last fight "for the fans" in Manchester. It was PPV. The opponent was a retired lightweight coming off a loss.

a) Ricky still made millions from his "fight for the fans"

b) It was a gimme (meant to be)

Ricky was poorly

I think that was great business by Hatton. Not knocking him... just that was the exapmle I thought of.

you think he was poorly on purpose?

Not sure what you mean. You mean he was ill on the night of the fight?

He still won easy just had a little wobble. Nothing to serious.

yeah appartently he was ill on the night of the fight

talking about the wobble i think rickys punch resistence was going a long before that fight

after the mausser (spelling!) fight the only fights he was in where he wasnt rocked were castillo and mallinagi (spelling!) and mallinagi doesnt really count

[erics44]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

[Fenster]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Not sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.

However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.

[erics44]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Not sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.

However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.

dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips tho

what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect

[Fenster]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Not sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.

However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.

dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips tho

what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect

Yeah I agree. If that was a Hatton pre Tyszu he would have bulldozed through him for a stoppage.

[brocktonblockbust]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Not sure about that. Magee rocked him with a shot that was even worse than the knockdown. Ricky grabbed him to stop going down. Also Vince Phillips hit with a shot that clearly hurt him, Hatton said he saw stars and didn't know whether he was in the MEN or Las Vegas at that point.

However, that's all part of boxing. He had a solid chin. NO disgrace in getting ironed by Pac and Floyd duffed him up.

dont remember the magee incident i do remember him saying that about phillips tho

what i am trying to say tho is i dont reckon at those earlier times in his carear lascano's punches would have had the same affect

Yeah I agree. If that was a Hatton pre Tyszu he would have bulldozed through him for a stoppage.

Now that's going a bit too far.

[ono]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Look closer.

He was hurt by some Costa Rican fella in the first round of their fight. He was badly hurt (by his own admission) by Vince Phillips and he was hurt by Ben Tackie (again by his own admission). He spent the second half of the Collazo fight on queer street aswell. Mayweather knocked him out, Lazcano rocked him and then Pacquaio nearly killed him

Magee definitely hurt him in that fight. Don't think it was in the same round as the knockdown though.

In summary, he never had a great chin.

[Fenster]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Look closer.

He was hurt by some Costa Rican fella in the first round of their fight. He was badly hurt (by his own admission) by Vince Phillips and he was hurt by Ben Tackie (again by his own admission). He spent the second half of the Collazo fight on queer street aswell. Mayweather knocked him out, Lazcano rocked him and then Pacquaio nearly killed him

Magee definitely hurt him in that fight. Don't think it was in the same round as the knockdown though.

In summary, he never had a great chin.

He had a solid world-class chin though. He was never Wayne McCullough or Oliver McCall, but with his come forward style you are guaranteed to get HIT. Hard.

Much better fighters than him have suffered KO's.

[Master]

just to add to that in all his early fights I hadnt seen him ever hurt at all

he went down against Magee but wasnt hurt

Look closer.

He was hurt by some Costa Rican fella in the first round of their fight. He was badly hurt (by his own admission) by Vince Phillips and he was hurt by Ben Tackie (again by his own admission). He spent the second half of the Collazo fight on queer street aswell. Mayweather knocked him out, Lazcano rocked him and then Pacquaio nearly killed him

Magee definitely hurt him in that fight. Don't think it was in the same round as the knockdown though.

In summary, he never had a great chin.

That is harsh to say Hatton did not have a good chin, anyone who could take the punches of Tszyu flush countless times and not get dropped must have some resistance. I think it is fair to say that punch resistance did go down the longer he was fighting, so Hatton would probably have lost the fight he had with Tszyu, if it was the Hatton that fought Pacquia in his last ever fight.