Who Fought the Better Fighters? Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Honestly, this thread is probably going to start a war. I know a case could be made for each fighter, but I think Pacquiao's record is way better than Mayweather's.

He fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales in a total of 8 fights. Who would fight first ballot hall of famers (for their boxing ability not their popularity) a total of 8 times like that?

He also fought Cotto and Margarito; fighters Floyd did not fight that the public wanted to see.

Floyd has some big names on his resume as well but it's just not on the same level of Manny's

Yea but we also have look at how they beat those fighters and what condition they were in at the time..

Pac beat Marquez ONLY ON PAPER, but he pretty much got exposed..

Morales and Barrera were past their best..

Delahoya was a walking Zombie

Margarito is slow like a snail and was tailor made... He was cherry picked at a CW..

Cotto was a decent victory..

[roberto duran legend]

Well thats a surprise .

[roberto duran legend]

Iwill guarantee you will be seeing marquez getting exposed soon, but i suppose he is over the hill .

[FinitoElDinamita]

Iwill guarantee you will be seeing marquez getting exposed soon, but i suppose he is over the hill .

umm then do u think Marquez is in his prime?

[ICB]

Iwill guarantee you will be seeing marquez getting exposed soon, but i suppose he is over the hill .

Exposed ? he already probably beat Manny Pacquiao twice, the guy is obviously not in his peak. Moving way above his peak weight and being in so many wars, and how many guys have been successful in there late 30's in smaller weightclasses ?

[roberto duran legend]

Just saying he is going to get knocked out thats all, and Marquez no way beat Manny twice but not going over that shit again.

[ICB]

Just saying he is going to get knocked out thats all, and Marquez no way beat Manny twice but not going over that shit again.

What do you mean no way ? both fights were close and easily could of gone to JMM. Infact most big websites and even Ring Magazine thought JMM beat Manny Pacquiao in there 2nd fight, and i had JMM edging both fights aswell.

[ICB]

Honestly, this thread is probably going to start a war. I know a case could be made for each fighter, but I think Pacquiao's record is way better than Mayweather's.

He fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales in a total of 8 fights. Who would fight first ballot hall of famers (for their boxing ability not their popularity) a total of 8 times like that?

He also fought Cotto and Margarito; fighters Floyd did not fight that the public wanted to see.

Floyd has some big names on his resume as well but it's just not on the same level of Manny's

Yea but we also have look at how they beat those fighters and what condition they were in at the time..

Pac beat Marquez ONLY ON PAPER, but he pretty much got exposed..

Morales and Barrera were past their best..

Delahoya was a walking Zombie

Margarito is slow like a snail and was tailor made... He was cherry picked at a CW..

Cotto was a decent victory..

MAB was not past his best in the 1st meeting.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Honestly, this thread is probably going to start a war. I know a case could be made for each fighter, but I think Pacquiao's record is way better than Mayweather's.

He fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales in a total of 8 fights. Who would fight first ballot hall of famers (for their boxing ability not their popularity) a total of 8 times like that?

He also fought Cotto and Margarito; fighters Floyd did not fight that the public wanted to see.

Floyd has some big names on his resume as well but it's just not on the same level of Manny's

Yea but we also have look at how they beat those fighters and what condition they were in at the time..

Pac beat Marquez ONLY ON PAPER, but he pretty much got exposed..

Morales and Barrera were past their best..

Delahoya was a walking Zombie

Margarito is slow like a snail and was tailor made... He was cherry picked at a CW..

Cotto was a decent victory..

MAB was not past his best in the 1st meeting.

barrera was in his prime against NAz, but he started slipping after..

Not to make excuses but he had many problems going into the pacman bout.. They started making an issue about the metal plate inside his head and he had to move camp in the middle because of the forrest fire in big bear...

MArco was not in his physical prime against pacman.. He was just a little bit past it..

[FinitoElDinamita]

all I know is, Pacman aint the best asian fighter ever.. That's some bullshit.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

all I know is, Pacman aint the best asian fighter ever.. That's some bullshit.

I won't argue with you on that. But maybe you can tell us who you think is the best Asian fighter ever so as to educate us.

[FinitoElDinamita]

all I know is, Pacman aint the best asian fighter ever.. That's some bullshit.

I won't argue with you on that. But maybe you can tell us who you think is the best Asian fighter ever so as to educate us.

Inside that squared circle, Nonito Donaire is the the most talented and the most skilled Asian Boxer of all times..

The Korean Hawk Jung Koo Chang is the greatest JFW of all times.

And if we are talking about street figures, Kim Doo Han aka The General's Son is the greatest Asian streetfighter of all times. This man kept the Yakuza in check during the Japanese occupation.. Fact..

[InTheNeutralCorner]

all I know is, Pacman aint the best asian fighter ever.. That's some bullshit.

I won't argue with you on that. But maybe you can tell us who you think is the best Asian fighter ever so as to educate us.

Inside that squared circle, Nonito Donaire is the the most talented and the most skilled Asian Boxer of all times..

The Korean Hawk Jung Koo Chang is the greatest JFW of all times.

And if we are talking about street figures, Kim Doo Han aka The General's Son is the greatest Asian streetfighter of all times. This man kept the Yakuza in check during the Japanese occupation.. Fact..

Nonito Donaire is not experienced enough to be considered the best. We'll know in the next 10 years if he'll be.

Jung-Koo Chang stayed in one weight division most of his career. He isn't even undefeated.

I don't believe Kim Doo Han is even involved in organized fighting so he doesn't qualify. But by including him, it appears that you are not just referring to boxing in here. Then Bruce Lee would rank higher than Pacquiao.

[miron_lang]

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barrera was in his prime against NAz, but he started slipping after..

Not to make excuses but he had many problems going into the pacman bout.. They started making an issue about the metal plate inside his head and he had to move camp in the middle because of the forrest fire in big bear...

MArco was not in his physical prime against pacman.. He was just a little bit past it..

Monster streak going in with Impressive victories over Johny Tapia and Kevin Kelley following victories againts Enrique Sanchez and Erik Morales.

[FinitoElDinamita]

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barrera was in his prime against NAz, but he started slipping after..

Not to make excuses but he had many problems going into the pacman bout.. They started making an issue about the metal plate inside his head and he had to move camp in the middle because of the forrest fire in big bear...

MArco was not in his physical prime against pacman.. He was just a little bit past it..

Monster streak going in with Impressive victories over Johny Tapia and Kevin Kelley following victories againts Enrique Sanchez and Erik Morales.

lol ummm because tapia was even more past it than Barrera and 126 wasn't his natural weight.. Same with Kelley.. He had much more mileage on him when barrera beat him...

R u kidding me. haha c'mon Miron.. I know you aint no boxrec warrior..