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    Looks like he wasn't faking

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    Wonder how Dawson feels now after making himself look like a prick after the fight. Hopkins WILL get his rematch and show Dawson how "gangter" he is I guess.

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.

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    I had a partial dislocation and it took me months - years even to get confident on my right again...

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    I had a partial dislocation and it took me months - years even to get confident on my right again...
    I've separated my shoulder several times and never once did I stop playing....it hurts and I reckon had I been throwing punches instead of playing football or lacrosse it would have been different, but hey this happened to a guy (Hopkins) who like so many dogged Vitali Klitschko when Vitali had a torn rotator cuff (which is much worse) also Hopkins is a dirty fighter and an asshole so I have 0 sympathy for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I had a partial dislocation and it took me months - years even to get confident on my right again...
    My left partially dislocates ALL the time, I have fuck all confidence in throwing a big hook or jab
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    Looks like he wasn't faking

    Boxing - Bernard Hopkins Update


    Wonder how Dawson feels now after making himself look like a prick after the fight. Hopkins WILL get his rematch and show Dawson how "gangter" he is I guess.

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 10-16-2011 at 04:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
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    Looks like he wasn't faking

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    Wonder how Dawson feels now after making himself look like a prick after the fight. Hopkins WILL get his rematch and show Dawson how "gangter" he is I guess.

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Why wouldhe 'pull a con' though? It was only the second round, he had probably won the first and was in no trouble whatsover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Looks like he wasn't faking

    Boxing - Bernard Hopkins Update


    Wonder how Dawson feels now after making himself look like a prick after the fight. Hopkins WILL get his rematch and show Dawson how "gangter" he is I guess.

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding

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    It should be a no contest, that is no way to win a title.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    no, it isn't fair but neither were any of the illegal...sorry gamesmanship techniques that Hopkins has himself used over the years.

    NC & re-match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    no, it isn't fair but neither were any of the illegal...sorry gamesmanship techniques that Hopkins has himself used over the years.

    NC & re-match.
    I can't recall Hopkins ever winning a fight by throwing somebody to the floor and them being unable to continue

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    Lyle B-Hop once won a fight just using one arm, so you can't really try and use that to defend Klitschko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Looks like he wasn't faking

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding
    You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con. The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 10-16-2011 at 08:03 PM.

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    Default Re: Doctor's Report on Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Looks like he wasn't faking

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding

    You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con
    . The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.
    Such a stupid post. So you think this first ballot hall of famer, arguably the greatest middleweight of all time, quit because he had a hunch Dawson was going to do be able to put it on him later in the fight and he wouldn't be able to hang with him?

    If this was the case, then why, pray tell did he stay in there with Jean Pascal, the conquerer of Dawson, after being floored twice and and being way down on the scorecards? Why didn't he look for a way to get a DQ in that fight, rather than turning it all around with a beautiful boxing lesson?

    Did he sense that Pascal, despite flooring him twice was going to wilt in the later rounds, whereas as his spider senses alerted him to the fact that Dawson was going to come on strong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Looks like he wasn't faking

    Sorry, but I don't buy it, it's well known that x-rays can be read a number of different ways, and it's also well known that you can get a "Doctor" to "confirm" just about anything. My guess is, Hopkins had a bruised shoulder and could have continued, but being the con that he really is, he thought he could win by a DQ.
    Just like every profession, there are always those bad apples in the batch. But in a high profile case such as this, the doctor would not confirm that diagnosis if it isn't backed by any work-up, whether it's laboratory or radiologic (x-rays). He knows his findings will be under media scrunity & he has a reputation and a license to protect.
    Just saying, the Dr might not be crooked, but x-rays of this type can be read a number of different ways, there's a gray area.. comprende? My "diagnosis" is Hop tried to pull a con, and it failed, and furthermore, fuck Hopkins.
    Yea he was pulling the Con. I saw him get lit up by Dawson's electrifying handspeed and power. He touched up Hopkins repeatedly. Complete wipeout on Dawson's part. Really left his mark on that old coot. I dont Blame Bernard for tanking it in the 2nd round and wanting no more of that hiding
    You can laugh, but I thought Dawson was starting to rough Hopkins up a bit and on his way to winning the fight before it was stopped, and I believe that's part of the reason why Hopkins pulled his con. The primary reason for the con being that Hopkins thought he was hurt worse than he was, and mistakenly thought that Dawson would get DQ'd.
    Such a stupid post. So you think this first ballot hall of famer, arguably the greatest middleweight of all time, quit because he had a hunch Dawson was going to do be able to put it on him later in the fight and he wouldn't be able to hang with him?

    If this was the case, then why, pray tell did he stay in there with Jean Pascal, the conquerer of Dawson, after being floored twice and and being way down on the scorecards? Why didn't he look for a way to get a DQ in that fight, rather than turning it all around with a beautiful boxing lesson?

    Did he sense that Pascal, despite flooring him twice was going to wilt in the later rounds, whereas as his spider senses alerted him to the fact that Dawson was going to come on strong?
    Both fighters landed 5 punches in the 1st round, and the 2nd round looked like another stalemate aswell. I don't see where all this Chad Dawson was winning idea has come from, i didn't see any fighter having an advantage.

    It probably would of ended up alot like Taylor/Hopkins, a very close controversial decision IMO.

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    Both fighters landed 5 punches in the 1st round, and the 2nd round looked like another stalemate aswell. I don't see where all this Chad Dawson was winning idea has come from, i didn't see any fighter having an advantage.

    It probably would of ended up alot like Taylor/Hopkins, a very close controversial decision IMO.
    Ledderman had Dawson winning the 1st round and so did I, for being busier and the aggressor, the 2nd round is anybody's guess because of course it ended early.

    No telling how the fight would have ended were it not for the stoppage. I liked what I was seeing from Dawson, but you're probably correct, it likely would have ended in a close controversial decision.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 10-16-2011 at 09:25 PM.

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