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    Default Re: Who won Calzaghe or Hopkins? Vote here.

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter but it was clear that the only reason Hopkins lost to Joe was because of his stamina at 43 years old.

    A younger Hopkins like the one that fought Trinidad would have more than enough stamina to consistently tag Calzaghe when he came in. He wouldn't just box from the outside either. He would get inside on Joe and do even more damage.

    I'm not saying Joe wouldn't have his moments, i just think a younger Hopkins is too well rounded for Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Who won Calzaghe or Hopkins? Vote here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter but it was clear that the only reason Hopkins lost to Joe was because of his stamina at 43 years old.

    A younger Hopkins like the one that fought Trinidad would have more than enough stamina to consistently tag Calzaghe when he came in. He wouldn't just box from the outside either. He would get inside on Joe and do even more damage.

    I'm not saying Joe wouldn't have his moments, i just think a younger Hopkins is too well rounded for Calzaghe.
    Dude, the only reason anyone lost to Joe was stamina and handspeed

    just like the only reason anyone lost to mike tyson was power

    Its easy to say hopkins would have beaten Joe earlier in his carear, the fact is Joe won the fight against a very good hopkins, also it was his first big fight in america and hopkins had had experience coming out of his ears

    if they had fough earlier in their carears and in britain joe might not have had such a bad start and could have won all 12 rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..

    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    I agree, 100..

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    Default Re: Who won Calzaghe or Hopkins? Vote here.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    I actually completely agree. I really don't see how it was very close. Let's say you think Calzaghe shouldn't get points for his slapping-punching style. Fine. He still outjabbed Hopkins something like 45 to 11. Hopkins only landed 11 jabs the whole fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    I actually completely agree. I really don't see how it was very close. Let's say you think Calzaghe shouldn't get points for his slapping-punching style. Fine. He still outjabbed Hopkins something like 45 to 11. Hopkins only landed 11 jabs the whole fight!
    Hopkins has never really been a jabber.

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    Default Re: Who won Calzaghe or Hopkins? Vote here.

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter but it was clear that the only reason Hopkins lost to Joe was because of his stamina at 43 years old.

    A younger Hopkins like the one that fought Trinidad would have more than enough stamina to consistently tag Calzaghe when he came in. He wouldn't just box from the outside either. He would get inside on Joe and do even more damage.

    I'm not saying Joe wouldn't have his moments, i just think a younger Hopkins is too well rounded for Calzaghe.
    Dude, the only reason anyone lost to Joe was stamina and handspeed

    just like the only reason anyone lost to mike tyson was power

    Its easy to say hopkins would have beaten Joe earlier in his carear, the fact is Joe won the fight against a very good hopkins, also it was his first big fight in america and hopkins had had experience coming out of his ears

    if they had fough earlier in their carears and in britain joe might not have had such a bad start and could have won all 12 rounds


    Thanks for the laugh.

    So your telling me that Prime for Prime Calzaghe could of beat Hopkins 12 rounds to 0.

    I mean there's biased then there's that post above.

    It doesn't make a difference where the fight was staged whether it be in America or Britain. All that matters is how their styles mesh in the ring.

    a 43 year old Hopkins was getting the better of Calzaghe in the first four rounds of their fight then he got tired. Calzaghe was then able to leave his mark on the fight by outworking and out landing Hopkins down the stretch.

    Ever since 2005, Hopkins has relied on slowing down the tempo of a fight to win. This version of Hopkins rarely fights on the inside and rarely throw combinations. A younger Hopkins didn't do that. He fought for 12 rounds at a good pace, he would throw combinations on a regular basis and he would get on the inside and do damage.

    Calzaghe wouldn't be able to outwork Hopkins like he did in 2008 because this Hopkins put in work every round and based on how well a 43 year old Hopkins did for four rounds a younger version would of done it far longer.

    So if Calzaghe couldn't outwork Hopkins as much as he did in 08 because the younger version had much better stamina, how does Calzaghe actually beat him.

    Like you said with your narrow minded opinion, Calzaghe beat everyone because of stamina and hand speed.

    That actually doesn't give enough credit to how good Joe was.

    P.S - Tyson didn't beat the majority of his opponents based only on his power. What about his exceptional hand speed, head movement, fast fluent footwork, his conditioning, his ability to put punches together to the body and head.

    Boxing ain't that simple.

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    Default Re: Who won Calzaghe or Hopkins? Vote here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter but it was clear that the only reason Hopkins lost to Joe was because of his stamina at 43 years old.

    A younger Hopkins like the one that fought Trinidad would have more than enough stamina to consistently tag Calzaghe when he came in. He wouldn't just box from the outside either. He would get inside on Joe and do even more damage.

    I'm not saying Joe wouldn't have his moments, i just think a younger Hopkins is too well rounded for Calzaghe.
    Dude, the only reason anyone lost to Joe was stamina and handspeed

    just like the only reason anyone lost to mike tyson was power

    Its easy to say hopkins would have beaten Joe earlier in his carear, the fact is Joe won the fight against a very good hopkins, also it was his first big fight in america and hopkins had had experience coming out of his ears

    if they had fough earlier in their carears and in britain joe might not have had such a bad start and could have won all 12 rounds


    Thanks for the laugh.

    So your telling me that Prime for Prime Calzaghe could of beat Hopkins 12 rounds to 0.

    I mean there's biased then there's that post above.

    It doesn't make a difference where the fight was staged whether it be in America or Britain. All that matters is how their styles mesh in the ring.

    a 43 year old Hopkins was getting the better of Calzaghe in the first four rounds of their fight then he got tired. Calzaghe was then able to leave his mark on the fight by outworking and out landing Hopkins down the stretch.

    Ever since 2005, Hopkins has relied on slowing down the tempo of a fight to win. This version of Hopkins rarely fights on the inside and rarely throw combinations. A younger Hopkins didn't do that. He fought for 12 rounds at a good pace, he would throw combinations on a regular basis and he would get on the inside and do damage.

    Calzaghe wouldn't be able to outwork Hopkins like he did in 2008 because this Hopkins put in work every round and based on how well a 43 year old Hopkins did for four rounds a younger version would of done it far longer.

    So if Calzaghe couldn't outwork Hopkins as much as he did in 08 because the younger version had much better stamina, how does Calzaghe actually beat him.

    Like you said with your narrow minded opinion, Calzaghe beat everyone because of stamina and hand speed.

    That actually doesn't give enough credit to how good Joe was.

    P.S - Tyson didn't beat the majority of his opponents based only on his power. What about his exceptional hand speed, head movement, fast fluent footwork, his conditioning, his ability to put punches together to the body and head.

    Boxing ain't that simple.
    I agree to an extent but remember Joe wasn't a spring chicken when he fought Hopkins either. People forget that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    I actually completely agree. I really don't see how it was very close. Let's say you think Calzaghe shouldn't get points for his slapping-punching style. Fine. He still outjabbed Hopkins something like 45 to 11. Hopkins only landed 11 jabs the whole fight!
    Hopkins has never really been a jabber.
    He hasn't been, and you may be right, but consider that he landed almost three times as many jabs against Roy Jones and threw two times the amount as he did against Calzaghe. Against, Pavlik he landed twice as many jabs and threw more than two and half times the amount as he did against Calzaghe. Against Jean Pascal, he landed two times the amount and threw almost twice the amount as he did against Pascal. His accuracy (punches landed versus thrown) was also the worst against Calzaghe of all the above opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.

    This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..

    I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...

    What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.

    Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
    Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter but it was clear that the only reason Hopkins lost to Joe was because of his stamina at 43 years old.

    A younger Hopkins like the one that fought Trinidad would have more than enough stamina to consistently tag Calzaghe when he came in. He wouldn't just box from the outside either. He would get inside on Joe and do even more damage.

    I'm not saying Joe wouldn't have his moments, i just think a younger Hopkins is too well rounded for Calzaghe.
    Dude, the only reason anyone lost to Joe was stamina and handspeed

    just like the only reason anyone lost to mike tyson was power

    Its easy to say hopkins would have beaten Joe earlier in his carear, the fact is Joe won the fight against a very good hopkins, also it was his first big fight in america and hopkins had had experience coming out of his ears

    if they had fough earlier in their carears and in britain joe might not have had such a bad start and could have won all 12 rounds


    Thanks for the laugh.

    So your telling me that Prime for Prime Calzaghe could of beat Hopkins 12 rounds to 0.

    I mean there's biased then there's that post above.

    It doesn't make a difference where the fight was staged whether it be in America or Britain. All that matters is how their styles mesh in the ring.

    a 43 year old Hopkins was getting the better of Calzaghe in the first four rounds of their fight then he got tired. Calzaghe was then able to leave his mark on the fight by outworking and out landing Hopkins down the stretch.

    Ever since 2005, Hopkins has relied on slowing down the tempo of a fight to win. This version of Hopkins rarely fights on the inside and rarely throw combinations. A younger Hopkins didn't do that. He fought for 12 rounds at a good pace, he would throw combinations on a regular basis and he would get on the inside and do damage.

    Calzaghe wouldn't be able to outwork Hopkins like he did in 2008 because this Hopkins put in work every round and based on how well a 43 year old Hopkins did for four rounds a younger version would of done it far longer.

    So if Calzaghe couldn't outwork Hopkins as much as he did in 08 because the younger version had much better stamina, how does Calzaghe actually beat him.

    Like you said with your narrow minded opinion, Calzaghe beat everyone because of stamina and hand speed.

    That actually doesn't give enough credit to how good Joe was.

    P.S - Tyson didn't beat the majority of his opponents based only on his power. What about his exceptional hand speed, head movement, fast fluent footwork, his conditioning, his ability to put punches together to the body and head.

    Boxing ain't that simple.
    I agree to an extent but remember Joe wasn't a spring chicken when he fought Hopkins either. People forget that.
    Calzaghe was 36/37 but he was far closer to his prime than Hopkins was.

    I mean he look at his performance against Kessler just before the Hopkins fight. The guy looked amazing.

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    The problem with Hopkins and Calzaghe is all their best wins are after their primes. I mean both have ruled weak divisions for most of their best years still have it a toss up if they fought at the same age.
    Last edited by Mr140; 10-19-2011 at 11:47 PM.

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    I have just looked at the punch stats and in every round calzaghe had more punches landed EVERY ROUND. I believe that is how they score a fight. Also someone said that Hopkins didnt have a scratch on him. Just because someone does not look hurt it does not mean they are winning the fight. What do you think would have happened if the fight continued. Calzaghe would have slapped him to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    I have just looked at the punch stats and in every round calzaghe had more punches landed EVERY ROUND. I believe that is how they score a fight. Also someone said that Hopkins didnt have a scratch on him. Just because someone does not look hurt it does not mean they are winning the fight. What do you think would have happened if the fight continued. Calzaghe would have slapped him to death.
    Exactly. Calzaghe is the only man Hopkins got wrong as an opponent since turning 40. All of his opponents post 40 have had their strengths taken away or else weren't all that hot to begin with. His most common weapon has been the catchweight, the second option has been to fight lower output fighters. With Calzaghe he thought he could catch a man moving up, he got it so, so wrong.

    Hopkins is way overrated and gets the sympathy vote because he is old, but he wasn't all that hot in his prime either. I take a number of MW's in history over Hopkins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    I have just looked at the punch stats and in every round calzaghe had more punches landed EVERY ROUND. I believe that is how they score a fight. Also someone said that Hopkins didnt have a scratch on him. Just because someone does not look hurt it does not mean they are winning the fight. What do you think would have happened if the fight continued. Calzaghe would have slapped him to death.
    Exactly. Calzaghe is the only man Hopkins got wrong as an opponent since turning 40. All of his opponents post 40 have had their strengths taken away or else weren't all that hot to begin with. His most common weapon has been the catchweight, the second option has been to fight lower output fighters. With Calzaghe he thought he could catch a man moving up, he got it so, so wrong.

    Hopkins is way overrated and gets the sympathy vote because he is old, but he wasn't all that hot in his prime either. I take a number of MW's in history over Hopkins.
    These are the truest words ive ever read regarding bernard hopkins. Yes miles, it's hop's age that gains him more recognition and sympathy rathr than by his fighting ability itself. Hopkins is overrated for sure.

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    My I just say Hopkins is no boxing God? yes he is in his late 40's, come on people one round of boxing 2or3 right hand's, 4or 5 headbut's lot's of hug's and a bit of rolling around on the floor. Some of you call that boxing ?my

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    My I just say Hopkins is no boxing God? yes he is in his late 40's, come on people one round of boxing 2or3 right hand's, 4or 5 headbut's lot's of hug's and a bit of rolling around on the floor. Some of you call that boxing ?my
    No, it's appalling really. The things some people are willing to put up with.

    The man should really just retire and more so after last weeks debacle. Just horrible, give it up and count your pennies. Hopkins has become like a corporate banker, he just won't go until you you push him hard enough. Just maybe Chad Dawson did that!

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