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    As for Tyson being prime this what i always found to be quite funny. When he lost to Holyfeild he just destroyed Frank Bruno faster then eh did in so called prime then got destroyed by Evander Holyfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    As for Tyson being prime this what i always found to be quite funny. When he lost to Holyfeild he just destroyed Frank Bruno faster then eh did in so called prime then got destroyed by Evander Holyfield.
    The Tyson that first fought Bruno was very poor, and was going through a lot of crap at home. Bruno was also shit scared the second time.
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    Lyle has Delusions of grandeur regarding the Klits inside and outside of boxing these guys will never be held to the level and standard of Tyson FACT.

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    Master like so many others always with the excuses for Tyson i always find it funny. I am not as critical on Tyson as i used to be i do feel he belongs in the top heavies and that makes him atg. But i have to put him tad lower on the list because his mental stat is quiet weak for top fighter. I mean he loses to a 40 1 in Douglas then goes on to do ok only to get pounded again by Holyfield i mean people say he was out of prime i find that funny. I mean look at all the other greats Robinson, Holyfeild, Lewis, Duran, Hearns, Leonard and many others out of there prime or weight kept going and had alot more problems. Just goes to show that the game is more mental then anything else and if you going to keep going you got to have the balls to do it i guess or you cant win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Lyle has Delusions of grandeur regarding the Klits inside and outside of boxing these guys will never be held to the level and standard of Tyson OPINION.
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    My own two cents on this:

    First, I think Tyson gets a bum rap about being mentally weak. Where does that come from? Maybe later in his career, after he was going downhill. But was he mentally weak before? I think not. He was getting pummeled by Douglas and didn't quit. He got pummeled by Holyfield and didn't quit. (Well... he DID bite the guy's ear off, which was sort of quitting, by getting disqualified, but oh well).

    Second, as objectively as I can... I think Tyson may not have gotten past Vitali. The size difference, Vitali's granite chin... those factors would've been key. But Wladimir? I think Tyson takes his head off. The argument that the Klitschkos don't get hit with uppercuts? Who have they EVER faced that throws the same murderous uppers that Tyson used to throw? No one. Take my word for it. Prime Tyson would've bobbed and weaved his way into Wladimir's guard, thrown some of those bombs, and gotten Wlad out of there in a hurry. Brewster and Sanders put him down.... and they were nowhere near Tyson's quality.

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