Bert Sugar on Mike Tyson, his legacy and chances against the Klitchko's

[El Kabong]

Wlad had to stalk Haye down for 12 rounds and people routinely confuse "being smart" with "being cautious"...Would Wlad have been smart if he just walked right into one of Haye's haymakers? NO! So Wlad stuck to his game plan (which has never not worked) pump the jab, look for openings, and don't get caught in return.

And who says Vitali "wouldn't be able to find Tyson"?!?! If anything Tyson would have a hard time finding Vitali, Sanders caught him as did Lennox but those guys are significantly taller than Tyson.

Bobbing and weaving doesn't mean much if you can't get passed the jab. The guys that use head movement to work to the inside of the Klitschko's are routinely tied up, out maneuvered, or walked into punches.

[brocktonblockbust]

The guys that use head movement to work to the inside of the Klitschko's are routinely tied up, out maneuvered, or walked into punches.

Utter depravity. Guys like Frazier and Marciano who really knew how to get inside, the K bros have never fought. All they have fought are cowards that, after bobbing a wee-bit and trying to get inside a wee-bit, and then tasting a couple nice steelhammer counter shots on the way in, GAVE THE FOCK UP AND DECIDED IT WAS SAFER ON THE OUTSIDE. CAN ANYONE SEE MARCIANO OR FRAZIER DECIDING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE?
PL-EEEEEASE!......

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Wlad had to stalk Haye down for 12 rounds and people routinely confuse "being smart" with "being cautious"...Would Wlad have been smart if he just walked right into one of Haye's haymakers? NO! So Wlad stuck to his game plan (which has never not worked) pump the jab, look for openings, and don't get caught in return.

And who says Vitali "wouldn't be able to find Tyson"?!?! If anything Tyson would have a hard time finding Vitali, Sanders caught him as did Lennox but those guys are significantly taller than Tyson.

Bobbing and weaving doesn't mean much if you can't get passed the jab. The guys that use head movement to work to the inside of the Klitschko's are routinely tied up, out maneuvered, or walked into punches.

Would Tyson have fought like that? Would Haye have got out of the first round with Tyson? Would Haye have talked so much shit for a few years and been so eager to get in their with Tyson?

[El Kabong]

Wlad had to stalk Haye down for 12 rounds and people routinely confuse "being smart" with "being cautious"...Would Wlad have been smart if he just walked right into one of Haye's haymakers? NO! So Wlad stuck to his game plan (which has never not worked) pump the jab, look for openings, and don't get caught in return.

And who says Vitali "wouldn't be able to find Tyson"?!?! If anything Tyson would have a hard time finding Vitali, Sanders caught him as did Lennox but those guys are significantly taller than Tyson.

Bobbing and weaving doesn't mean much if you can't get passed the jab. The guys that use head movement to work to the inside of the Klitschko's are routinely tied up, out maneuvered, or walked into punches.

Would Tyson have fought like that? Would Haye have got out of the first round with Tyson? Would Haye have talked so much shit for a few years and been so eager to get in their with Tyson?

Well first off, the styles of Wlad and Tyson are very different and built to be effective in different ways.

Yes Haye would have talked himself up, he'd do it vs anyone that's his M.O., he's an asshole its what he does.

Would Tyson have operated the way Wlad did? No because Tyson's style wasn't based on what Wlad's style is based on.

Would Haye survive at least a round...maybe, it would depend on how big the ring was.

Haye was by no means "eager" to fight Wlad.

How does a Haye-Tyson fight end? A mid-early rounds KO, when Haye is looking to the ref in sympathy for being "fouled" Tyson would forearm him in the throat and then rip off a 3 punch combo sending the bewildered Haye to the canvas for a 5 count, stumbling up at 6, falling down again at 7, and down one more time at 9 as the ref waves the fight off.

You wouldn't expect Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey to finish fighters the same way would you?