Who is 'Greater' on the all-time list SRL or RJJ?

[Mars_ax]

Talk about total disrespect for a great fighter honestly.

Your love for and defense of RJJ is touching, as for disrespecting him, that's comical, fuck Roy Jones Jr., that is all.

You can rant all you want i didn't see you address anything in my post, and your hate for RJJ is ridiculous. Not even in the top 100 ? that is an absolute joke, you can dislike a fighter without being ridiculously biased and hateful.

Gosh ICB, are you and Roy dating? You seem to be "ridiculously" all over this mother-fucker's nuts.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is "biased and hateful" or as in love with RJJ as you seem to be, quit acting like an over emotional cunt, and get over yourself.

Are you serious ? your the one that needs to get over yourself, your the one getting annoyed and flustered over nothing. To not put RJJ in an ATG top 100 list is a joke, that's not an opinion that's just plain hating.

Not many fighters have achieved what RJJ did, or have dominated the way he did. Based on accomplishments and his dominant performances, aswell as just plain natural talent he's easily top 100 and actually he's more like top 50. And had he retired after John Ruiz fight he'd be rated even higher.

First off, you may think it's a joke, but it's my ATG list, so I can put anyone I bloody well please, and where on it, no?

"if he'd just retired" can be said about a lot of fighters, the fact is Jones didn't retire after Ruiz, and all the losses, and KO loses since then have tarnished his "legacy".

[ICB]

Talk about total disrespect for a great fighter honestly.

Your love for and defense of RJJ is touching, as for disrespecting him, that's comical, fuck Roy Jones Jr., that is all.

You can rant all you want i didn't see you address anything in my post, and your hate for RJJ is ridiculous. Not even in the top 100 ? that is an absolute joke, you can dislike a fighter without being ridiculously biased and hateful.

Gosh ICB, are you and Roy dating? You seem to be "ridiculously" all over this mother-fucker's nuts.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is "biased and hateful" or as in love with RJJ as you seem to be, quit acting like an over emotional cunt, and get over yourself.

Are you serious ? your the one that needs to get over yourself, your the one getting annoyed and flustered over nothing. To not put RJJ in an ATG top 100 list is a joke, that's not an opinion that's just plain hating.

Not many fighters have achieved what RJJ did, or have dominated the way he did. Based on accomplishments and his dominant performances, aswell as just plain natural talent he's easily top 100 and actually he's more like top 50. And had he retired after John Ruiz fight he'd be rated even higher.

First off, you may think it's a joke, but it's my ATG list, so I can put anyone I bloody well please, and where on it, no?

"if he'd just retired" can be said about a lot of fighters, the fact is Jones didn't retire after Ruiz, and all the losses, and KO loses since then have tarnished his "legacy".

So you actually have a top 100 list and don't have RJJ in it ? please i'd love to see the list.

And what about SRL's gift decision vs Tommy Hearns, or his one sided loss to Terry Norris doesn't that tarnish his legacy either ?

[Mars_ax]

Talk about total disrespect for a great fighter honestly.

Your love for and defense of RJJ is touching, as for disrespecting him, that's comical, fuck Roy Jones Jr., that is all.

You can rant all you want i didn't see you address anything in my post, and your hate for RJJ is ridiculous. Not even in the top 100 ? that is an absolute joke, you can dislike a fighter without being ridiculously biased and hateful.

Gosh ICB, are you and Roy dating? You seem to be "ridiculously" all over this mother-fucker's nuts.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is "biased and hateful" or as in love with RJJ as you seem to be, quit acting like an over emotional cunt, and get over yourself.

Are you serious ? your the one that needs to get over yourself, your the one getting annoyed and flustered over nothing. To not put RJJ in an ATG top 100 list is a joke, that's not an opinion that's just plain hating.

Not many fighters have achieved what RJJ did, or have dominated the way he did. Based on accomplishments and his dominant performances, aswell as just plain natural talent he's easily top 100 and actually he's more like top 50. And had he retired after John Ruiz fight he'd be rated even higher.

First off, you may think it's a joke, but it's my ATG list, so I can put anyone I bloody well please, and where on it, no?

"if he'd just retired" can be said about a lot of fighters, the fact is Jones didn't retire after Ruiz, and all the losses, and KO loses since then have tarnished his "legacy".

So you actually have a top 100 list and don't have RJJ in it ? please i'd love to see the list.

And what about SRL's gift decision vs Tommy Hearns, or his one sided loss to Terry Norris doesn't that tarnish his legacy either ?

Yes I do, my top 100 ATG's starts before Jim Jefferies was HW Champion, and includes all weight divisions up through the modern era, and no, you can't see it.

As for Leonard's legacy, it's all good, have a great day ICB..

[p4pking]

Lol, what fighters do you like Mars?

It's hard to assess Jones career in large part, because we really don't know when his skills started to diminish and to what extent, or whether moving back down in weight was really as devestating as is often made out.
For me this excuse is kind of trumped by the fact that he looked a lot fresher in the first round of the Tarver rematch than he did in any of their first fight. He simply got caught with a great punch, but also one of the only truly great punches he'd been hit with in a long time, and it knocked him silly. He clearly never had the same confidence in his abilities after this, whether they were there or not. Leonard in his prime fought the kind of opposition that you can't go without being hit by, and sure enough proved to be extremely durable all the way through. I think SRL is more of a concrete entity for this reason, you have a reasonable idea about how he might have fared against certain guys he didn't fight, which isn't so much the case with Roy imo.
Often times with slick fighters it's once they lose a step that you start to see how tough they really were, Pernell Whittaker for example proved that he had a hell of a chin against Trinidad, nobody could've guessed whether he would stand up to that kind of punishment before the fact.

[ICB]

Talk about total disrespect for a great fighter honestly.

Your love for and defense of RJJ is touching, as for disrespecting him, that's comical, fuck Roy Jones Jr., that is all.

You can rant all you want i didn't see you address anything in my post, and your hate for RJJ is ridiculous. Not even in the top 100 ? that is an absolute joke, you can dislike a fighter without being ridiculously biased and hateful.

Gosh ICB, are you and Roy dating? You seem to be "ridiculously" all over this mother-fucker's nuts.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is "biased and hateful" or as in love with RJJ as you seem to be, quit acting like an over emotional cunt, and get over yourself.

Are you serious ? your the one that needs to get over yourself, your the one getting annoyed and flustered over nothing. To not put RJJ in an ATG top 100 list is a joke, that's not an opinion that's just plain hating.

Not many fighters have achieved what RJJ did, or have dominated the way he did. Based on accomplishments and his dominant performances, aswell as just plain natural talent he's easily top 100 and actually he's more like top 50. And had he retired after John Ruiz fight he'd be rated even higher.

First off, you may think it's a joke, but it's my ATG list, so I can put anyone I bloody well please, and where on it, no?

"if he'd just retired" can be said about a lot of fighters, the fact is Jones didn't retire after Ruiz, and all the losses, and KO loses since then have tarnished his "legacy".

So you actually have a top 100 list and don't have RJJ in it ? please i'd love to see the list.

And what about SRL's gift decision vs Tommy Hearns, or his one sided loss to Terry Norris doesn't that tarnish his legacy either ?

Yes I do, my top 100 ATG's starts before Jim Jefferies was HW Champion, and includes all weight divisions up through the modern era, and no, you can't see it.

As for Leonard's legacy, it's all good, have a great day ICB..

I want to see that list copy and paste it