"Floyd is Boring" - Why do you think so?

[Althugz]

Floyd/Marquez? We all knew it was a mismatch. Fucking bore.
Floyd/Baldomir? Eating shit would be more fun that watch that.
Floyd/Ortiz? Sucker punch to end the fight and go home early. Crap.
Floyd/Mosley? Way to carry an old man.

Love how Floyd winds you up so much these days that you forget your own previous posts. i distinctly remember you saying before floyd signed for mosley that he was ducking him and youd have respect if he signed as that was the only other fight worth making. surprise surprise miles is going senile and has forgotten lolz!

Reminds me of when daxx said that baldomir was gonna "steamroll" floyd because he was too small and then cussed him out for the victory. its one big LOL in here sometimes!

[imp]

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Master of accuracy and defense!
Cant help but love this guy.

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[Beanz]

I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

Very true and admitting it does not make you Flomophobic character0193.gif

[p4pking]

I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.

Yeah, but admit it, you have your favorites and usually root for one fighter or the other when they get in the ring.

Honestly, not overly so. If I do root for anyone its only because I like the way they fight, and if that changes during the course where the other guy starts doing things I like better I'll happily be in his corner on the night. If anything I'd root heavily for anyone who has success against Floyd, I'd love to see him beaten as I feel that would take a hell of a performance from just about anyone and be great for the sport. I will of course admit to being very partial to his style, but that's not rooting for him by any means. It's the people who outright dislike certain fighters for personal reasons that let their judgement cloud what they are actually watching imo.

[15rounder]

Some of this difference of opinion is just that people from different countries enjoy certain things. I'm to understand that alot of European boxing fans like the technical aspect of it more than the big punches and knockouts (not to say they don't enjoy that stuff). But Americans enjoy the action packed fights alot more than we do the chess matches so to speak. In my opinion, that's what makes Floyd boring. As many people have pointed out, his safety first approach. If he wants to do that, fine, he's the one fighting, it works for him. But it makes for boredom for the fans. He had opportunites to go for the knockout or atleast beat to a bloody pulp Mosely and DLH, and possibly marquez, but chose to drag it to decision because he didn't want to take ANY risk, none. The reason Floyd sells so many PPV's is because he sells the fight with his mouth, not with his boxing. He's such an ass that people pay to see him lose. Unfortunately, he's going to make sure that boxing never sees the fight that I think he owes us. He doesn't need to fight Kahn, or rematch Ortiz, or any of that. Just Manny. That will cement his legacy. But it's too risky. And Floyd doesn't take risks.

[Althugz]

How did he not beat Mosley to a pulp? He did everything BUT knock him out..Marquez, he seemed to be going for the knockout later on but wanted the rounds in it seemed after so long off. I liked that he didn't knock him out because 1) I love Marquez, my favourite Mexican fighter so didn't want to see that and 2) Wanted to see if Floyd had any rust.

Even my friend who dislikes Floyd text me at the end of every round going "Wtf? How is he doing this to Marquez? He's something else" - Ortiz was also on his way to being knocked out.

I didn't think he was safety first against Mosley or Ortiz..but it's a fair statement if people find his style boring. Doesn't make anyone a hater.

P.S. Let's not get into Floyd vs Manny. My opinion as to why that fight hasn't happened yet is the polar opposite to yours but take that topic into one of the million other old threads or heck, does that Floyd vs Manny forum still exist? lol

[15rounder]

Agreed on the last part of your post. I just wish one of these guys would do to the other what Tarver did to Jones Jr. Tarver made sure he was at all of Roys fights, conferences, and everything which is what drew Roy into the ring. But like I said before, In my opinion, Floyds style is pretty boring, not to say he's not one of the best defensive fighters we've seen. But the title of the post is "why is floyd boring to some" (im paraphrasing). If you're going to draw a comparison solely on entertainment value during a fight, Manny wins that matchup. Who knows if we'll see Floyd in the ring again. I'm sure he'll retire with his unblemished record and a ko percentage above 60% which is decent in my opinion. But history is going to end up blaming him if that fight doesn't come off. Not necessarily because its his fault (who knows what's going on behind the scenes) but because he's a prick in front of the camera while Manny is on his way to quite possibly being the savior of a nation.

[TruImpact]

I've never thought of floyd as boring, but I know a lot of people who do. I guess you just need to have an appreciation for how technical his game is. Just watching some of his training videos is insane, gives you a lot of respect for the guy (even though hes an egotistical maniac).

[johnsebastianmiran]

First of all, I don't like Floyd but He is a master boxer. He doe his homework and most importantly he goes out of his way to be in shape. Like him or hate him he plies his trade and he is always one up psychologically on his opposition and you can't say that he doesn't like boxing because in the end his hand is always the one I have seen raised by the referee. Boring maybe because his opposition doesn't have what it takes to beat him but Floyd is no fool in the ring, just outside.

[Beanz]

I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

Very true and admitting it does not make you Flomophobic character0193.gif

And posting this shit makes you a fucking idiot.

Right.. so defending your right to not have an unhealthy obsession with all things Floyd Mayweather and then highlighting your post bemoaning Ortizs frankly amateur and two faced hugging apology, which i presume you mentioned to show your balanced unprejudiced appraisal of the fight makes me a fucking idiot. Thanks

I apologise wholeheartedly for defending your right to not to go weak at the knees every time Floyd fights.

[Mars_ax]

I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

Very true and admitting it does not make you Flomophobic character0193.gif

And posting this shit makes you a fucking idiot.

Right.. so defending your right to not have an unhealthy obsession with all things Floyd Mayweather and then highlighting your post bemoaning Ortizs frankly amateur and two faced hugging apology, which i presume you mentioned to show your balanced unprejudiced appraisal of the fight makes me a fucking idiot. Thanks

I apologise wholeheartedly for defending your right to not to go weak at the knees every time Floyd fights.

Actually, I wholeheartedly apologise to you for having misread your original post, my reading comprehension must not have been up to snuff that day. My bad sir, I took your post to mean something else..

cheers

[Gandalf]

Floyd/Marquez? We all knew it was a mismatch. Fucking bore.
Floyd/Baldomir? Eating shit would be more fun that watch that.
Floyd/Ortiz? Sucker punch to end the fight and go home early. Crap.
Floyd/Mosley? Way to carry an old man.

Love how Floyd winds you up so much these days that you forget your own previous posts. i distinctly remember you saying before floyd signed for mosley that he was ducking him and youd have respect if he signed as that was the only other fight worth making. surprise surprise miles is going senile and has forgotten lolz!

Reminds me of when daxx said that baldomir was gonna "steamroll" floyd because he was too small and then cussed him out for the victory. its one big LOL in here sometimes!

I do get amnesia with some of my previous posting. About 1 month is my limit for remembering things and I even have this weird habit of starting a thread with the same topic about once a year. It totally flies over me.

However, I am not a massive Floyd fan and see no sense in hiding that.

[p4pking]

But you do dislike him for reasons that have nothing to do with boxing, and go to lengths to hide that imo. How come Toney get's such a pass from you Miles, is it simply because people dont rate him as highly? He's just as much of an assclown as Mayweather is surely?

[Beanz]

Floyd/Marquez? We all knew it was a mismatch. Fucking bore.
Floyd/Baldomir? Eating shit would be more fun that watch that.
Floyd/Ortiz? Sucker punch to end the fight and go home early. Crap.
Floyd/Mosley? Way to carry an old man.

Love how Floyd winds you up so much these days that you forget your own previous posts. i distinctly remember you saying before floyd signed for mosley that he was ducking him and youd have respect if he signed as that was the only other fight worth making. surprise surprise miles is going senile and has forgotten lolz!

Reminds me of when daxx said that baldomir was gonna "steamroll" floyd because he was too small and then cussed him out for the victory. its one big LOL in here sometimes!

I do get amnesia with some of my previous posting. About 1 month is my limit for remembering things and I even have this weird habit of starting a thread with the same topic about once a year. It totally flies over me.

However, I am not a massive Floyd fan and see no sense in hiding that.

I know how you feel i get amnesia full stop. A couple of days ago i wrote in a reply to the Fury -Povetkin thread that if Fury ever met Mcdermott, Mcdermott would knock him out, after which i was asked would that be third time lucky then ? What makes it worse is that i watched both previous Fury - Mcdermott fights and then had a long enough brain fart to forget both and spout my gob off

[NuthaPug]

Watching Floyd-Gatti right now on ESPN Classic.

I am not feeling too bored.

Of course, Gatti brings energy but Mayweather's technical superiority is what makes it a fight to watch.


... btw, Floyd hits Arturo in first round on a fuzzy break and scores a knockdown. Precursor to Ortiz fight - Floyd doesn't give any latitude in the break -