Breaking News: Thousands of protesters SHUT DOWN Oakland Port

[Gandalf]

So spit it out then Ghost and stop making cryptic statements.

Oh, I don't know miles. According to you, "Everybody" else in the world is to blame for the state of affairs going on around the world. The only one's not on you hit list is the dirt poor or unemployed.

No, I have never said that either so don't put words in my mouth which is what you are accusing BBB of doing to you. The global financiers and in particular those on Wall Street in collusion with our governmental elites are responsible. I have highlighted the source of the problems very specifically. My ire is a select group.

Obviously I am not going to blame honest hard working folk nor people who have been screwed over by financial shenanigans.

You have and I quote "Blamed" every one in the government, from politicians to law makers, the rich, more than a few different religions and countries, the UN and big business. Have I missed any one here?

These are all from posts you have made over the last six months or so. You are like a broken record, except now you have brocktonblockbust spitting out the same things.



Oh yeah, Forgot banks above.

I don't like religion, but I certainly don't blame it for the financial crisis. However, for sure I am against powerful interests that abuse their power. That means a tiny fragment of the global population. Basically the rich muppets who never seem to have enough. Basically big finance which is in bed with the people who govern our countries.

It is commonsense to rail against those people and salute those who are taking their stand.

I sound like a broken record? Well it's better than suggesting that the people taking a stand all be 'shot'.

[brocktonblockbust]

{Ghost}Oh, I don't know miles.

Finally he said something true.

[Spicoli]

I don't know of many "tyrants" in history who succumbed to protesters and whine-ins. There has to be an end game and a preset level of escalation they as a group are prepared to climb to

When the cell phones and hand painted signs are replaced with bricks and Molotov's do they still get a pass ? And will the keyboard warriors pick up arms to support the cause

[brocktonblockbust]

I don't know of many "tyrants" in history who succumbed to protesters and whine-ins. There has to be an end game and a preset level of escalation they as a group are prepared to climb to

When the cell phones and hand painted signs are replaced with bricks and Molotov's do they still get a pass ? And will the keyboard warriors pick up arms to support the cause

Hopefully they will pick up bricks. But how does that invalidate what they are now doing? Things happen gradually. This may be just the beginning, we'll have to see. Who said tyrants had to fall to whiners? No one said that. This may become a real revolution. No reason to discredit it now in its early stages.

[El Kabong]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

[Gandalf]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

You are off your rocker.

Your post suggests that you side with the bankers who lost trillions over protesters who have closed a port just in order to get these serious issues put on the agenda.

[El Kabong]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

You are off your rocker.

Your post suggests that you side with the bankers who lost trillions over protesters who have closed a port just in order to get these serious issues put on the agenda.

What's the reasoning behind closing a port or "camping" in a privately owned park and harassing your run of the mill small businesses if "the evil banks" are the ones they are protesting? The OWS makes no sense! The Tea Party had a message, they supported specific candidates and changes to government, OWS is a nebulous movement of unemployable over educated over privileged whiny ass liberals its a FACT miles! I've heard people complain that "oh, I worry that I won't be able to find a job after college, I majored in Environmental Studies and minored in Music" ....what type of job can that person get Is she going to start a choir of songbirds from the tropical rain forrest? These people have accumulated debt with no purpose!!! They've gone to college because it "was the thing to do" not because they wanted a good job or wanted to make themselves easier to employ. If they had things there way they would be Professional Students, paid to go to class and learn liberal arts...you don't see Business or Econ majors in the OWS movement miles, because THEY are employable, they went to school to better themselves!

[Gandalf]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

You are off your rocker.

Your post suggests that you side with the bankers who lost trillions over protesters who have closed a port just in order to get these serious issues put on the agenda.

What's the reasoning behind closing a port or "camping" in a privately owned park and harassing your run of the mill small businesses if "the evil banks" are the ones they are protesting? The OWS makes no sense! The Tea Party had a message, they supported specific candidates and changes to government, OWS is a nebulous movement of unemployable over educated over privileged whiny ass liberals its a FACT miles! I've heard people complain that "oh, I worry that I won't be able to find a job after college, I majored in Environmental Studies and minored in Music" ....what type of job can that person get Is she going to start a choir of songbirds from the tropical rain forrest? These people have accumulated debt with no purpose!!! They've gone to college because it "was the thing to do" not because they wanted a good job or wanted to make themselves easier to employ. If they had things there way they would be Professional Students, paid to go to class and learn liberal arts...you don't see Business or Econ majors in the OWS movement miles, because THEY are employable, they went to school to better themselves!

These people went to college because their teachers told them that they would amount to nothing if they didn't. "You need a college degree to succeed", they whine at you. And then you realise that you need copious debt to get through it and then you graduate and realise that the country has been sold to finance and that finance is getting richer off of your misery.

Well, yeah. You take to the streets and argue that you were sold a dodgy loan. Just like the subprime mortgage holders and the people who were laid off because enough was never enough. These people have been sold a lie and sold out and so they are taking it back and if that means closing a port then so be it. The port today and then what tomorrow. It is going to spread, Lyle.

But by attacking the protesters you once again evade what they are protesting about which is essentially the corruption and collusion of the political and financial elite. Being sold a lie is bad enough, but having to pay back with interest? That's when you tell them to bugger off and say "what about the frauds you committed?" and to then take them to task for it. And it's not just the loans, but that no jobs come at the end anyway. Even if you have one you end up losing it and your house too.

The entire country needs to be brought to a standstill really. Tax evasion, protests, violence. It is all heading towards what Obama could never have dreamed of when he promised "change".

[Spicoli]

I don't know of many "tyrants" in history who succumbed to protesters and whine-ins. There has to be an end game and a preset level of escalation they as a group are prepared to climb to

When the cell phones and hand painted signs are replaced with bricks and Molotov's do they still get a pass ? And will the keyboard warriors pick up arms to support the cause

Hopefully they will pick up bricks. But how does that invalidate what they are now doing? Things happen gradually. This may be just the beginning, we'll have to see. Who said tyrants had to fall to whiners? No one said that. This may become a real revolution. No reason to discredit it now in its early stages.

A real revolution today most likely will not be led by a brick. I don't invalidate anything, they will accomplish this themselves when they keep the common pug trying to pay the rent from actually doing a job and earning a living. Sit ins and blocking road ways will not tear down a Government or have a significant inpact on its foreign policy but it will make speed bumps and hood ornaments out of a few. This will not be a "real revolution" I dont believe, if anything it boarders a reality show run off script from what I can tell.

[El Kabong]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

You are off your rocker.

Your post suggests that you side with the bankers who lost trillions over protesters who have closed a port just in order to get these serious issues put on the agenda.

What's the reasoning behind closing a port or "camping" in a privately owned park and harassing your run of the mill small businesses if "the evil banks" are the ones they are protesting? The OWS makes no sense! The Tea Party had a message, they supported specific candidates and changes to government, OWS is a nebulous movement of unemployable over educated over privileged whiny ass liberals its a FACT miles! I've heard people complain that "oh, I worry that I won't be able to find a job after college, I majored in Environmental Studies and minored in Music" ....what type of job can that person get Is she going to start a choir of songbirds from the tropical rain forrest? These people have accumulated debt with no purpose!!! They've gone to college because it "was the thing to do" not because they wanted a good job or wanted to make themselves easier to employ. If they had things there way they would be Professional Students, paid to go to class and learn liberal arts...you don't see Business or Econ majors in the OWS movement miles, because THEY are employable, they went to school to better themselves!

These people went to college because their teachers told them that they would amount to nothing if they didn't. "You need a college degree to succeed", they whine at you. And then you realise that you need copious debt to get through it and then you graduate and realise that the country has been sold to finance and that finance is getting richer off of your misery.

Well, yeah. You take to the streets and argue that you were sold a dodgy loan. Just like the subprime mortgage holders and the people who were laid off because enough was never enough. These people have been sold a lie and sold out and so they are taking it back and if that means closing a port then so be it. The port today and then what tomorrow. It is going to spread, Lyle.

But by attacking the protesters you once again evade what they are protesting about which is essentially the corruption and collusion of the political and financial elite. Being sold a lie is bad enough, but having to pay back with interest? That's when you tell them to bugger off and say "what about the frauds you committed?" and to then take them to task for it. And it's not just the loans, but that no jobs come at the end anyway. Even if you have one you end up losing it and your house too.

The entire country needs to be brought to a standstill really. Tax evasion, protests, violence. It is all heading towards what Obama could never have dreamed of when he promised "change".

....So they are just a bunch of sheeple? They got sold college as a means to an end, they bought into it and now they are broke and unemployed and this makes them angry?

This is typical of the "everyone gets a trophy" generation, they want to hit the reset button, they want a 'Fight Club' style revolution....but just like when they were sold on college they are STILL not thinking about the consequences of their actions!!!

[Gandalf]

I don't know of many "tyrants" in history who succumbed to protesters and whine-ins. There has to be an end game and a preset level of escalation they as a group are prepared to climb to

When the cell phones and hand painted signs are replaced with bricks and Molotov's do they still get a pass ? And will the keyboard warriors pick up arms to support the cause

Hopefully they will pick up bricks. But how does that invalidate what they are now doing? Things happen gradually. This may be just the beginning, we'll have to see. Who said tyrants had to fall to whiners? No one said that. This may become a real revolution. No reason to discredit it now in its early stages.

A real revolution today most likely will not be led by a brick. I don't invalidate anything, they will accomplish this themselves when they keep the common pug trying to pay the rent from actually doing a job and earning a living. Sit ins and blocking road ways will not tear down a Government or have a significant inpact on its foreign policy but it will make speed bumps and hood ornaments out of a few. This will not be a "real revolution" I dont believe, if anything it boarders a reality show run off script from what I can tell.

Rome wasn't built in a day. This movement has been running for a matter of weeks and look how it has spread. Who is to say it won't spread much more rapidly?

Peaceful protest is probably not enough. I think people really need to consider going the Syria route. Lives will need to be lost and civil disobedience will need to be increased. Power needs to be challenged and there are a lot of guns in America, it is time they were brought to the streets.

Peaceful protest is not going to be enough to make a dent, but considering the US elites phoney warning to Arabian dictators, I think it only right that a concerted effort be made upon the US elite themselves.

[Gandalf]

Well this will certainly teach those lousy bankers!


See this kind of irrational attacking that the OWS movement is doing for no rhyme or reason makes it difficult to support them or even tolerate them.

You are off your rocker.

Your post suggests that you side with the bankers who lost trillions over protesters who have closed a port just in order to get these serious issues put on the agenda.

What's the reasoning behind closing a port or "camping" in a privately owned park and harassing your run of the mill small businesses if "the evil banks" are the ones they are protesting? The OWS makes no sense! The Tea Party had a message, they supported specific candidates and changes to government, OWS is a nebulous movement of unemployable over educated over privileged whiny ass liberals its a FACT miles! I've heard people complain that "oh, I worry that I won't be able to find a job after college, I majored in Environmental Studies and minored in Music" ....what type of job can that person get Is she going to start a choir of songbirds from the tropical rain forrest? These people have accumulated debt with no purpose!!! They've gone to college because it "was the thing to do" not because they wanted a good job or wanted to make themselves easier to employ. If they had things there way they would be Professional Students, paid to go to class and learn liberal arts...you don't see Business or Econ majors in the OWS movement miles, because THEY are employable, they went to school to better themselves!

These people went to college because their teachers told them that they would amount to nothing if they didn't. "You need a college degree to succeed", they whine at you. And then you realise that you need copious debt to get through it and then you graduate and realise that the country has been sold to finance and that finance is getting richer off of your misery.

Well, yeah. You take to the streets and argue that you were sold a dodgy loan. Just like the subprime mortgage holders and the people who were laid off because enough was never enough. These people have been sold a lie and sold out and so they are taking it back and if that means closing a port then so be it. The port today and then what tomorrow. It is going to spread, Lyle.

But by attacking the protesters you once again evade what they are protesting about which is essentially the corruption and collusion of the political and financial elite. Being sold a lie is bad enough, but having to pay back with interest? That's when you tell them to bugger off and say "what about the frauds you committed?" and to then take them to task for it. And it's not just the loans, but that no jobs come at the end anyway. Even if you have one you end up losing it and your house too.

The entire country needs to be brought to a standstill really. Tax evasion, protests, violence. It is all heading towards what Obama could never have dreamed of when he promised "change".

....So they are just a bunch of sheeple? They got sold college as a means to an end, they bought into it and now they are broke and unemployed and this makes them angry?

This is typical of the "everyone gets a trophy" generation, they want to hit the reset button, they want a 'Fight Club' style revolution....but just like when they were sold on college they are STILL not thinking about the consequences of their actions!!!

Governments have an obligation towards their people. You offer them real opportunities in the real world. You don't allow loan sharks to control education. You nationalize all key industries. You are a government run by the people in the interests of the people. Not a fricking government run in the interests of Wall Street.

Now let's see a system sold on truth AND in the interests of its citizenry. And furthermore, lets hold the elite to the same standards. Tax them properly and allow wealth to filter down as it should and in turn allow governments to provide jobs for people. None of this phoney sell education as a lie and money trickles down from the top BS.

Actually redistribute the money and jail anyone who doesn't accept the social contract. Society is about all, not just you.

[El Kabong]

Miles, these people lack the dedication to shave or bathe. They are wimps, flakes, or just liberals with bad attitudes, no one is scared of them.

Winter is coming, they put on a brave face right now "bring on the snow dude"....its just November, or as they call it "Movember" (probably because they are Mo-rons)....let's see what they think of "White Christmas" in New York, in a park, on the ground, in tents and sleeping bags.

Welcome to Earth kiddies, when your parent or teacher told you "Life's not fair", you probably should have listened.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, and when you see the smug fat kid at the back the entire class should beat the crap out of him. You can mock the masses, but they are coming and they are gonna take what is theirs.

[El Kabong]

Yeah, and when you see the smug fat kid at the back the entire class should beat the crap out of him. You can mock the masses, but they are coming and they are gonna take what is theirs.

...And miles is going to live vicariously through their victories until the movement becomes bastardized.

Miles, the keyboard El Che

The "99%" won't take shit because they aren't owed shit, 53% of Americans actually pay income taxes, that's who should be pissed off not these snot nosed college know-it-all hippies!

These people need to wake up and go occupy a damn job! Don't blame others for your failures and shortcomings, own it! Take control of your life, there is no "Man" holding down middle class kids who are fortunate enough to go to college.