James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

[CFH]

My stream stopped working after the 8th, is Lebedev actually landing big now? Toneys corner should definetly just pack it in, it's not as if he's going to fight another day.

Lebedev keeps staggering Toney, but he's not pressing the action. He could stop this anytime he wants.

[p4pking]

Yea I caught the last round as well for some reason. Lebedev should really be ashamed of himself for not at least trying to end it at some point.. Toney staggered himself any time he threw anything, all you needed to watch was the first round.

[CFH]

Is LEbedev crying? What the fuck is he crying about? He better be upset because he just beat up an old man...

[Rantcatrat]

Yea I caught the last round as well for some reason. Lebedev should really be ashamed of himself for not at least trying to end it at some point.. Toney staggered himself any time he threw anything, all you needed to watch was the first round.

Listen to be fair to Lebedev, a lot of people thought Toney would give him a boxing lesson tonight and he went out there and dominated. However, unless its Tarver, enough of fighting the senior circuit. I mean really.

[p4pking]

Yea I caught the last round as well for some reason. Lebedev should really be ashamed of himself for not at least trying to end it at some point.. Toney staggered himself any time he threw anything, all you needed to watch was the first round.

Listen to be fair to Lebedev, a lot of people thought Toney would give him a boxing lesson tonight and he went out there and dominated. However, unless its Tarver, enough of fighting the senior circuit. I mean really.

Nah man, a lot of people were partial to Toney and HOPED that he could muster up some kind of last hurrah after losing the weight. If he had any of his faculties in tact he would have given the guy a boxing lesson, Lebedev sucks imo.

[Gandalf]

I just can't get over just how out of sorts Toney was. Losing is fair enough, but the number of times he fell off balance or was swinging and missing by a yard is just mind blowing.

At least Jones looked very sharp in spots, but Toney looked like an OAP from the off or at least after the 'leg injury'.

He clearly did something to his leg early on and I thought that was a factor. But if not, then it is incredible how someone as skillful as Toney has fallen.

Just nothing at all, I would have expected him to at least land something but there was almost nothing coming back that wasn't a hayemaker that made him fall over.

[Gandalf]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

[Mars_ax]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

Why be gutted? This was totally predictable, especially with the odds being 13-1 in Levedev's favor. As for James, he's none the worse for wear after this one, and got final decent payday, no need to feel sorry for his ass.

[Gandalf]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

Why be gutted? This was totally predictable, especially with the odds being 13-1 in Levedev's favor. As for James, he's none the worse for wear after this one, and got final decent payday, no need to feel sorry for his ass.

When one of your favourite fighters loses badly you feel bad too.

It was the same thing with Hatton/Pac, I get into it all and really will them to do these incredible things and when it falls flat you feel a bit bleak.

It's not very nice seeing James Toney being wobbled all over the shop by a fighter that will never accomplish a quarter of what someone like Toney has.

[Gandalf]

Toney doesn't get staggered like that, Toney is never not able to land counters, Toney never looks that clumsy. And yet it was Toney.

He hasn't looked great in recent fights, but he was still competitive. Only against Peter was he really rubbish the second time out. But here, he was beyond awful.

Shut out. It just tells you how much boxing fans really know.

It's over. It was one of those fights where the nail was well and truly hammered home.

[CFH]

Best post-fight interview ever.

[p4pking]

Toney doesn't get staggered like that, Toney is never not able to land counters, Toney never looks that clumsy. And yet it was Toney.

He hasn't looked great in recent fights, but he was still competitive. Only against Peter was he really rubbish the second time out. But here, he was beyond awful.

Shut out. It just tells you how much boxing fans really know.

It's over. It was one of those fights where the nail was well and truly hammered home.

To be fair I think boxing fans were really just hoping Toney could manage to regain some kind of form after trimming down, and had he been able to whatsoever he probably would've won. For as horribe as Toney has looked the past few years this was a new level of shite that noone could have been sure of except for people who really had some inside information as to how Toney looked in camp or something. How sad that he still looked soft as hell at 200, I posted a few months ago that his pituitary gland among other things were likely just fucked and the fact that his body composition was the same after shedding 40 lbs is pretty solid evidence of this.

[boozeboxer]

Toney doesn't get staggered like that, Toney is never not able to land counters, Toney never looks that clumsy. And yet it was Toney.

He hasn't looked great in recent fights, but he was still competitive. Only against Peter was he really rubbish the second time out. But here, he was beyond awful.

Shut out. It just tells you how much boxing fans really know.

It's over. It was one of those fights where the nail was well and truly hammered home.

To be fair I think boxing fans were really just hoping Toney could manage to regain some kind of form after trimming down, and had he been able to whatsoever he probably would've won. For as horribe as Toney has looked the past few years this was a new level of shite that noone could have been sure of except for people who really had some inside information as to how Toney looked in camp or something. How sad that he still looked soft as hell at 200, I posted a few months ago that his pituitary gland among other things were likely just fucked and the fact that his body composition was the same after shedding 40 lbs is pretty solid evidence of this.

Does that happen with age?

[p4pking]

Toney doesn't get staggered like that, Toney is never not able to land counters, Toney never looks that clumsy. And yet it was Toney.

He hasn't looked great in recent fights, but he was still competitive. Only against Peter was he really rubbish the second time out. But here, he was beyond awful.

Shut out. It just tells you how much boxing fans really know.

It's over. It was one of those fights where the nail was well and truly hammered home.

To be fair I think boxing fans were really just hoping Toney could manage to regain some kind of form after trimming down, and had he been able to whatsoever he probably would've won. For as horribe as Toney has looked the past few years this was a new level of shite that noone could have been sure of except for people who really had some inside information as to how Toney looked in camp or something. How sad that he still looked soft as hell at 200, I posted a few months ago that his pituitary gland among other things were likely just fucked and the fact that his body composition was the same after shedding 40 lbs is pretty solid evidence of this.

Does that happen with age?

Not really to that extent, it happens with repeated trauma to the head and terribly low testerone and growth hormones levels. With practically any other type of athlete or even many fighters they are still able to maintain a reasonable muscle mass many years after they lose their faculties. It's not as if Toney didnt put it any work to lose the weight he is just a ruin.

[Mars_ax]

I believe what there needs to be, is a washed up/shot, American old farts Super-six tourney, with Toney, RJJ, Tarver, Hopkins, Holyfield, and Tyson all participating. The winner gets free care at a nursing home of their choice.