James Toney is back! Toney/Lebedev live!

[Gandalf]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

[Mars_ax]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

Why be gutted? This was totally predictable, especially with the odds being 13-1 in Levedev's favor. As for James, he's none the worse for wear after this one, and got final decent payday, no need to feel sorry for his ass.

[Gandalf]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

Why be gutted? This was totally predictable, especially with the odds being 13-1 in Levedev's favor. As for James, he's none the worse for wear after this one, and got final decent payday, no need to feel sorry for his ass.

When one of your favourite fighters loses badly you feel bad too.

It was the same thing with Hatton/Pac, I get into it all and really will them to do these incredible things and when it falls flat you feel a bit bleak.

It's not very nice seeing James Toney being wobbled all over the shop by a fighter that will never accomplish a quarter of what someone like Toney has.

[Mars_ax]

I agree with p4pking, I think Lebedev is shit too.

I think this is simply testament to the end of James Toney. At 42 he simply was too old and had been too fat and for far too long. I was worried that he was going to be stopped on at least a dozen occasions. That is not James Toney.

He was wobbling all over the place and looked spent coming into the championship rounds. To think how just a few years ago that was when Toney would come on and would dazzle his opponents with combinations and counter so effectively off of the ropes.

Today it was all gone. He could slip punches, but the quality was gone and he could not counter. He was reduced to being a one trick pony with the right hand counter being his only weapon. And it wasn't much of a weapon.

I'm gutted really.

Why be gutted? This was totally predictable, especially with the odds being 13-1 in Levedev's favor. As for James, he's none the worse for wear after this one, and got final decent payday, no need to feel sorry for his ass.

When one of your favourite fighters loses badly you feel bad too.

It was the same thing with Hatton/Pac, I get into it all and really will them to do these incredible things and when it falls flat you feel a bit bleak.

It's not very nice seeing James Toney being wobbled all over the shop by a fighter that will never accomplish a quarter of what someone like Toney has.

It's always sad to see pugs fighting way past their prime, but more often than not it's about making money. It's not like Toney or RJJ for that matter, don't know what they're doing, and as long as someone is willing to pay them well, they're gonna take it. Do I feel sorry for them? Nope not at all.