Frazier V Tyson

[El Kabong]

Frazier was taller and had a longer reach than Tyson.

You really have to wonder who would back down first between these guys both of whom were face first fighters that would stalk down their opponent.

Frazier even when being beaten had impressive head movement always up and down with very slight side to side weaving and gloves up ready to unleash Hell. When Tyson was in dire straights he stopped moving so much, he would throw 1 punch at a time. When Frazier worked his way in you were going to pay the price, Tyson was easier to tie up IMO.

[ross]

Theres alot of technical talk on this forum from people who have never even taken a shot in a competative matchbut they can analyze a pretend fight and come up with a determined out come?

Sometimes its as simple as fighter A (Frazier) isnt hard to hit and fighter B (Tyson) was the worst fighter ever to be facing if that was the case

Joe is a great fighter and rightly belongs in the rankings above Tyson but its hard to look past how How Joe would have got past that blistering speed and pace of those first few rounds (even though Mike had tge same speed late and very good stamina). If Georges telegraphed long wide shots can get in.....

[El Kabong]

Theres alot of technical talk on this forum from people who have never even taken a shot in a competative matchbut they can analyze a pretend fight and come up with a determined out come?

Sometimes its as simple as fighter A (Frazier) isnt hard to hit and fighter B (Tyson) was the worst fighter ever to be facing if that was the case

Joe is a great fighter and rightly belongs in the rankings above Tyson but its hard to look past how How Joe would have got past that blistering speed and pace of those first few rounds (even though Mike had tge same speed late and very good stamina). If Georges telegraphed long wide shots can get in.....

According to ross nobody ever beats Tyson ever

[ross]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

[THE THIRD MAN]

It would be like two bulls in a china shop, i think Joe nails him with that left hook in a 3 or 4 round brawl.

[El Kabong]

Tyson doesn't beat many (if any at all) of the greats...thems the facts jack

[ross]

This just to antagonize but an old Tyson lasted longer against Lewis than Vitali did

[El Kabong]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

You must have skipped the part where I said Frazier would have been all wrong for Wlad because of: chin, stamina, power, and constant pressure.

[greynotsoold]

Interesting fight and I tend to favor Tyson, because he was faster, a two handed puncher, and, at his peak, a better defensive fighter.
But that is all against taller fighters trying to stay away from him. Somebody mentioned above, and I think it would be prophetic, that Tyson had that terrific uppercut. But here's the thing: it would come down to who controlled the distance. Tyson did his damage on the transition from "out" to "in", whereas Frazier liked to fight inside. If Frazier is uncertain on that transition, Tyson will freeze him and land that uppercut. If Frazier can get inside and stay there he'll win.
But I think tyson would beat him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

of course you would Ross, you're Lyle's equivalent when it comes to being Tyson's cheerleader, if someone told you that drinking his piss gave you his mystic strength you would chug that shit down, never have you taken a step back and realize Tyson wasn't the greatest HW to have fought, hell Holyfield's a notch above him and that's not including the two ass whoopings he gave Tyson, Frazier had plenty to be able to fuck Tyson over with

[ross]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

of course you would Ross, you're Lyle's equivalent when it comes to being Tyson's cheerleader, if someone told you that drinking his piss gave you his mystic strength you would chug that shit down, never have you taken a step back and realize Tyson wasn't the greatest HW to have fought, hell Holyfield's a notch above him and that's not including the two ass whoopings he gave Tyson, Frazier had plenty to be able to fuck Tyson over with

Oh you

Did George Foremans slow wide looping punches catch Fraizer?

Tyson wasnt the greatest heavy and he didnt achieve as much as a few other fighters but other than the notoriety of the Ali fights, I think his achievments are at least on a par with Fraziers.

[El Kabong]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

of course you would Ross, you're Lyle's equivalent when it comes to being Tyson's cheerleader, if someone told you that drinking his piss gave you his mystic strength you would chug that shit down, never have you taken a step back and realize Tyson wasn't the greatest HW to have fought, hell Holyfield's a notch above him and that's not including the two ass whoopings he gave Tyson, Frazier had plenty to be able to fuck Tyson over with

Oh you

Did George Foremans slow wide looping punches catch Fraizer?

Tyson wasnt the greatest heavy and he didnt achieve as much as a few other fighters but other than the notoriety of the Ali fights, I think his achievments are at least on a par with Fraziers.

For the last fucking time Tyson isn't, wasn't, and never should be confused with George Foreman God damnit! How did Foreman's wide looping punches find Frazier? Well George was tall, had a long reach, and Ole'd Joe Frazier like a matador because even Big George was wary of Frazier's punching power when standing toe to toe. George even admitted he was terrified once one of Joe's left hooks wizzed past his head.

If Tyson can get pushed 12 by Bonecrusher Smith, rocked by Bruno, and when the only guy showing the heart and fighting spirit of Joe Frazier (Buster Douglas) whipped Tyson's ass then you have to figure it would at least be difficult for Tyson....(Well you don't have to figure it because you're blinded by the myth of the invincible Mike Tyson) I figure Frazier stops him #1 because Tyson never lost by decision #2 Fraizer's heart, stamina, and work rate were too much for Tyson.

[ElTerribleMorales]

If I was drinking a cup of tea id have spat and coughed it up reading that last post by Klitschkos cheerleader!

of course you would Ross, you're Lyle's equivalent when it comes to being Tyson's cheerleader, if someone told you that drinking his piss gave you his mystic strength you would chug that shit down, never have you taken a step back and realize Tyson wasn't the greatest HW to have fought, hell Holyfield's a notch above him and that's not including the two ass whoopings he gave Tyson, Frazier had plenty to be able to fuck Tyson over with

Oh you

Did George Foremans slow wide looping punches catch Fraizer?

Tyson wasnt the greatest heavy and he didnt achieve as much as a few other fighters but other than the notoriety of the Ali fights, I think his achievments are at least on a par with Fraziers.

Foreman was looked like Colossus next to Frazier and he would have against Tyson as well the man is what? 6'4? long ass arms and packed a hell of a lot more one punch power than Mike as well

Tyson is what? 5'10? 5'11? Frazier was 5'10, both men had short arms, and both were awesome fighting on the inside

I'm sure that Tyson would have been smacked around like a bitch against a young prime George Foreman just the same, and don't see how it's absurd by any means to think that Frazier would have been able to cope with Tyson's speed when he handled Ali's pretty damn well, and Ali had arguably the fastest hands at HW

back to the statement that Foreman's slow looping shots landing on Frazier, wasn't Tyson smacked caught plenty by lesser heavies like Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher Smith, and Razor Ruddock? so what makes you think that Frazier's left hook, one of the greatest left hooks in the history of the sport, wouldn't land on Tyson?

[miron_lang]

Marb's call is perfect IMO.

Iron Mike has about 3 rounds to knock Frazier out. If Joe survives the early assault then he'll win this one.

[jon09]

Why do we rate Frazier so high? If it was not for Ali would any of this be discussed? These 2 matched well with each other and 2 out of the 3 fights were historical. But who has Frazier really beaten? I guess Buster Douglas should be rated higher on the all time greats because of his outstanding win over Tyson but then he met his Foreman in Holyfield. Tyson has to much in his arsenal and would uppercut Frazier to death and put him to sleep inside 3. Just my opinion.