Who is the greatest person ever in the history of humankind?

[Dark Lord Al]

"great" is different for people, but although IM not a Christian I cant think of anyone who is more famous, more loved, than Jesus Christ of Bethlehem.

We are taking about people who actually existed not fairytales.

[Andre]

"great" is different for people, but although IM not a Christian I cant think of anyone who is more famous, more loved, than Jesus Christ of Bethlehem.

We are taking about people who actually existed not fairytales.

That would be Yeshua Ben Yoseph then; Yod, Shin, Vav, Ayin .

[Ghost]

The Unknown Soldier

[brocktonblockbust]

"great" is different for people, but although IM not a Christian I cant think of anyone who is more famous, more loved, than Jesus Christ of Bethlehem.

We are taking about people who actually existed not fairytales.

well thats an excellent point bcuz I read several times that a Yeshua bin Pantera was a famous rabbi at that time and may have been confused with Jesus if he was really 1 person or not, could be a mixture of 2 people that took mythical proportions by word of mouth.

[brocktonblockbust]

(text)A mythological being can't be killed. Jesus Christ is a mythological being. Yeshu ben Pantera was a man, a Jewish healer with amazing powers, and he was killed, stoned to death along with his five disciples by Jewish religious authorities all by themselves, no Romans involved whatsoever. Yeshu was then hung on a [COLOR=#e0e060 !important][COLOR=#e0e060 !important]tree[/COLOR][/COLOR] as per Jewish Law, which Paul refers to in Gal 3:13.

The real story of Jesus is the story of Yeshu ben Pantera and Miriam ben Stada his mother Miriam the hairdresser who adulterous affair with Joseph ben Pantera, a Roman mercenary, produced Yeshu who learned magic arts in Egypt and "led many astray" according to the Talmud where one can find this information so carefully hidden away from Gentile eyes.

[Gandalf]

I believe Jesus was a real person, but I think word of mouth and religious fabrication has made him extremely overrated. Probably an extremely nice chap and one of the first to have a go at the bankers, but when people start talking about magical powers and returning from the dead, I think they are getting a little carried away.

[Tito BHB]

I believe Jesus was a real person, but I think word of mouth and religious fabrication has made him extremely overrated. Probably an extremely nice chap and one of the first to have a go at the bankers, but when people start talking about magical powers and returning from the dead, I think they are getting a little carried away.

i agree, by alot of standards (things like praying to jesus) i think people are over the top..

but by all means he could have been a spiritual and religious prophet to the same extend as mohammed or any buddha, moses etc.. but he is just that, a prophet. people make this guy really important and say hes the son of god, worship him like so.. but i thought all men were made in gods image and that we are all the son of god.. this guy could be simply some kind of revolutionary that got mistreat

[brocktonblockbust]

Yeshua ha Notzri and Yeshua bin Pandera. 2 rabbis whose life stories have been combined into ONE PERSON.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshu

[Mars_ax]

Yeshua ha Notzri and Yeshua bin Pandera. 2 rabbis whose life stories have been combined into ONE PERSON.

Yeshu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One fictional character is more like it, the New Testament is a religious novel.

[brocktonblockbust]

Yeishu ha Notzri, Jesus or Jesua, or Yeshua or Joshua ben Pantera or Pentera or Pandera or Pandira, there are even several first-century Christian references to this supposed miracle worker.

If he was the Teacher of Righteousness referred to by the Dead Sea Scrolls, as some have suggested, his impact on the movement towards Jewish reform was considerable. And if he was the Teacher of Righteousness, it would answer a lot of interesting questions, such as the scattered first century Christian and Talmudic references to a miracle worker named Yeishu ha Notzri, known to first-century Christians as Jesus or Jesua ben Pantera. Among them are a quote from Origen, saying that his arch-rival Celsus had heard from a Jew in Jerusalem that "Jesus Ben Pantera" was born of Mary as the result of a rape by a Roman soldier named Pantera, and had borne the baby in secret (most scholars now regard this claim to be a first-century legend resulting from misinterpretation of the facts).

[Mars_ax]

"great" is different for people, but although IM not a Christian I cant think of anyone who is more famous, more loved, than Jesus Christ of Bethlehem.

We are taking about people who actually existed not fairytales.

Right, fictional characters don't qualify.

[Doot]

Nicola Tesla

[Master]

Another person I would throw into the equation would be military warriors like Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan.

On the opposite end of the equation Mother Teresa.

[Beanz]

Another person I would throw into the equation would be military warriors like Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan.

On the opposite end of the equation Mother Teresa.

“[Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.”
― Christopher Hitchens
So maybe not so opposite after all

[Mars_ax]

Another person I would throw into the equation would be military warriors like Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan.

On the opposite end of the equation Mother Teresa.

“[Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.”
― Christopher Hitchens
So maybe not so opposite after all

I've read quite a bit of negative things about Mother Teresa, 1st off she was no fucking saint, not even close to being one, more of an over-hyped media creation. One of the many issues I have with humanity is that most are like sheep, blindly following ideologies, without examining their fatal flaws and outright lies.